Bi-Weekly Update 4/17 - More crafting Love

[Kyle]

Crafting Milestone Hit: Functioning Experimenting. As you can see from the video, the framework of virtually all crafting functions is finished.

So-- here's a new video demonstrating how crafting is progressing. It should be live on TC very soon. Give Kyle, Ritter and Link a pat on the back once again for doing such an awesome job on crafting!

Download [43.1mb]: REQUIRES QUICKTIME
http://swgemu.com/other/experimenting_mp4vid.zip
http://www.thewildclan.com/experimenting.mp4 (right click, save as)


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3) Developer Perspective: ("Round Table")

Originally Posted by bobius
Here's my "Round Table" post.

Since most of you don’t know me yet, I figured I’d use my first bi-weekly update to introduce myself a bit as well as let you know what I’ve been working on. I’m a 23 year old Software Engineer / IT Technician from New Orleans. I’m interested in the fields of Computer Security and Forensics and am possibly considering a career change into one of those fields. I first started playing Star Wars Galaxies, back in 2003, my freshmen year of college. It was actually the first MMO that I had ever played. I remember running around before mounts, wishing I could get XP for every virtual step. I remember when player cities were implemented and my roommate and I moved our guild to one of the first player cities on Radiant. I remember when the galactic civil war was in full swing, and that city became an Imperial Strong hold. Most of all though, I remember when SOE killed the game I loved. I remember when they screwed the economy with Veteran Rewards and anti-decay kits. I remember the travesty that was the CU and the death sentence that is the NGE.

I’ve been trolling around these forums and IRC off and on since the project first went open source with Core1, mostly observing and keeping quiet. Recently, with the open sourcing of Core3, I saw a change for the better, both in the community, and the developers. That’s why I decided to get involved. I’m looking forward to helping make SWG Pre CU a reality again.

You may notice some changes when you create a new character on the Test Center now. I’ve been working on that area in the last few weeks. When creating your character, you’ll notice that the random name generator now works properly. Names are also now filtered and will tell you if you’ve entered an improper name. When you load into the world for the first time your character will no longer spawn naked. You will already be trained in the novice profession you chose when creating your character. Your character’s HAM meters will also reflect those of your chosen profession, and after the next update, your starting items will reflect those proper to your chosen profession, species, and sex.

-Bobius

Kyle's Blurb: So, I have pretty much focused exclusively on crafting for the last month or so, and it is paying off. Currently, like most people here, I am preparing for upcoming finals, and the "closure" of getting experimenting working should be enough to stop my obsession for long enough to get school work done.


Ramsey:
I just updated the small heightmaps section in the closing, outlining our problem in a bit more detail. I am really looking forward to bringing the heightmap stuff to a close. Once we have heightmaps, a lot of things will fall into place. Structure placement (which I think is pretty much done besides the part that requires heightmaps) and smoother npc movement will be added in almost instantly after heightmaps. Exciting times are ahead!


4) Closing:

Crafting: As far as crafting goes, this leaves us closer to a live implementation. What is left is a lot of data entry for the rest of the schematics, and some refinement of the crafting code to make adding all the new objects smooth. Also, as you can probably see, equations need to be tweaked still, and are not in a finished state, so if anyone is very familiar with those equations, wants to help test (May involve tedious stuff) come and join #CraftingTesting. A special thanks to all those who have participated in my little projects in #CraftingTesting, it really has help me speed up the process. You guys are the best!

Heightmaps: This is an area that is holding us back in the area of NPC movement and structure placement at the moment. We know a number of ways to implement this, but are searching for an efficient alternative to the methods we already know. Currently, we will be able to generate a huge file with all the z values for every x/y coordinate pair, but the problem we have is being able to manage all that data in a sensible way (save memory, fast request time etc). Educated idea's on how to manage huge heightmaps are welcome.

So this week we'll have some more information from Ramsey concerning Heightmap development, and possibly several more tiny updates will be edited in to this post. Stay tuned!!

[Aedales]

1st!! Outstanding... Can't wait.. crafting is NEEDED greatly! Keep up the fantastic job!!!

[The Loki]

>.> nice

[xela]

<3 kyle & ritter <3 crafting thanks for the hard work :)

[jermangin]

lookin good.

[Seaseme]

cool job kyle and welcome Bobius!

[bobius]

Hax!

No really, great Job Kyle. This is a huge step forward!

[Jazza]

/pat Kyle on back
/pat Ritter on back


GREAT job guys!

[maffew]

good job guys :)

[ooryl2]

/drools at the crafting video.


Bobius' Round Table post there brought tears to my eyes, remembering the day cities when live and rushing to plop our city hall down. That city you refered to didn't happen to be Kintan by chance? I don't know if we were the very first to be founded on Radiant, but definately was one of them :)

[UmbrusUrsa]

Beautiful work, both of you. I am so proud of the SWGEmu team.

[homebrew]

Awesome guys, freaking awesome. Amazing your getting this kind of stuff done

[Bandar]

woot awesome job guys!! keep up the good work.. at this pace we'll be experiencing Full Pre-Cu in no time!! Appreciate it guys!!

[Ashur]

/lick devs, awesome job guys, we all love you :)

[Ekowraith]

This rocks. Awesome work as always guys.

!!

[Enflorence]

Awesome job guys!

[Dreads]

Oooo very nice, it looks like crafting is coming along very smoothly!

[Zar]

Awesome job devs =]

[Ekaika]

I absolutely LOVE this. Thank you for your interest and thank you for your dedication to the project. To all the Dev's... it's a long and I imagine invalidated road, but there are SO many people rooting you on. The fruit of your labor will be realized in the end....

[Hiddukel]

Awsome job.
SWGemu team/dev, you are making an incredible work,
and I would like just to say: "THANK YOU".

[Sonno]

Awesome B-day present! Thanks folks! Keep up the great work!

[MajkStone]

Good job guys!

[ksh87]

Looks great guys, good job. I can hardly wait for it to hit TC.

[AZIronman]

o...m.....g no way
i just crapped myslef

[Maccajnr]

nice!!! can't wait to have my hands on it :D

[badfish]

Wooooohoooo! nice! Great work guys! :)

[KroniK]

Hells yeh this is awesome. Great work guys.

[Airbag]

wonderful progress, thanks guys:)

[Tephros]

Great job devs ;)

[nostyleguy]

awesome :) can't wait to test it

[Rook]

Woop! Great News!

[Kellina]

VERY NICE!!, Well done, Keep it up! We will be live in no time.

[Timbab]

Wonderful.

Good job guys! Pwnsauce.

[Antisnow]

wuwuwuwu, experimentation :D

[David]

i love ramsey

[SoapSud]

A big step forward, well done.

[Draconaria]

Awesome guys thats one hell of a milestone to hit

[The V Man]

Parroting everyone else here, but it's still got to be said: Frickin' awesome. Well done devs!

[OldMaster]

THIS is what I mean when I say "update" :D

Can't wait to test crafting on Test Center.

[okegima]

yhea awsome crafting works

[Jevil]

100% Positive Feedback!!!!!!

[Galaborn]

great work, can't wait to start crafting

[Rauce]

wooot! great job, keep up the good work, im amazed!

[MrBlonde]

Hope to see you on #CraftingTesting. :)

[Sti1garWormrider]

well done everyone!

[Araiti]

That was the best video ive watched in a while

[Baak'Cha]

Good work guys. Crafting is one of my favorite things in mmo's, and I appreciate all the hard work......oh, and happy birthday Sonny.

[damondooda]

Crafting: As far as crafting goes, this leaves us closer to a live implementation. What is left is a lot of data entry for the rest of the schematics, and some refinement of the crafting code to make adding all the new objects smooth. Also, as you can probably see, equations need to be tweaked still, and are not in a finished state, so if anyone is very familiar with those equations, wants to help test (May involve tedious stuff) come and join #CraftingTesting. A special thanks to all those who have participated in my little projects in #CraftingTesting, it really has help me speed up the process. You guys are the best!

If that means we can test,id be glad to test,do i just log onto IRC?

[Roidrage667]

Mmmmm.... :)

[Xar]

Congrats guys, Im really happy that crafting is going smoothly! I cant wait to get back to my business.

-Xarthos

[zetlaux]

Very good job guys! This is an exciting step forward.

[toilet_duck]

Excellent work everyone! We're all loving the progress that's being made!

[Legoklas]

HAha wonderfull! Soon the craftin will be out of the way!
Wich gives room for more coding :P

*Whipping devs* YEA! YEA! *WHip*

[Aeglos]

Wohoo! You guys rock, keep it up! We're not worthy!

[Legoklas]

Wohoo! You guys rock, keep it up! We're not worthy!

SHhhhh! You make them realise they dont need us!!!

*Hrrmm* Back to work maggots! Carry on!....

[darkgnite1]

i watch the video and feel like crying

beautiful

[BOy2K]

woot woot woot!!
:)

[bobius]

That city you refered to didn't happen to be Kintan by chance? I don't know if we were the very first to be founded on Radiant, but definately was one of them :)

To tell you the truth, I can't remember the name of the first player city we were in. It was on Naboo right outside of Kadaraa. We quickly moved to Lok and I believe that city was called Dark Hope or something of the sort. That's where all the action happened ;)

[wookiesniper]

Way to go devs! Thank you for making the dream a reality. :)

[Fars]

This server brings meaning to my MMO gaming again. Pre-CU is becoming reality, and what was once lost in the shameful rubble of SoE's past, will be re-awakened by SWGEmu! I look forward to participating and becoming part of this humble community! You guys are the best and please let me know if there is anything I can do.

L O V E

[Xenomorph]

Nice job guys and welcome bobius, nice post!

[goldcrud]

mmmm crafting awesome job devs and all people who helped contribute. I'm glad to see more new people contributing to the project by coding.

[Travis8908]

thats awesome

[rwp389]

GREAT WORK!!! but would you look at the loot. and try and fix the outragious drop rates :) Gracias!

[Lion84]

Awesome job, devs! Looks great!! :D

[Gulkia]

omg amazing!

[Ekaika]

GREAT WORK!!! but would you look at the loot. and try and fix the outragious drop rates :) Gracias!

All in due time my man, all in due time.

[TAfirehawk]

Absolutely amazing work.....now to gear up for testing....I better get busy :)

[Fedora]

NICE job!

[Greylin Thon]

Totaly freak'n sweet. I have nothing but complete respect for crafters having tried it several times myself and never having the paitience to stick with it, well that and the fact that I was always so excited when I didn't trash the item I was working on I always ended up giving my creations away to whom ever asked. You folks at SWGEmu are the best. keep the dream alive and with luck the IRS won't screw me over this year and I might actualy be able to make a donation toward your efforts. All of you are the best, players included.

[Samcuu]

its been a while since i've been active in here...should i feel bad that im just sitting on the sidelines waiting for this to be finished?...i swear i was testing at first...but im just too busy...meh

Great job anyways i thought crafting would never get done!!

[WickedHangover]

Assuming the crafting includes bio engineer, does sampling also include sampling DNA?

BE was one of the last profs I got to play pre-cu and I really wish I had discovered it much sooner...

[Ekaika]

with luck the IRS won't screw me over this year

Keep dreamin ;)

[rohar]

I think I am going to cry. It is just so great that everything is moving along so well
/beg "thank you so much"

[Ramsey]

Added my portion to the round table section of the update, elaborated on heightmaps in the closing.

[Arrin]

I love you.
SWGEMU> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ANH

[Davickk]

Thanks guys for all the dedication and hard work you guys are putting into this project, although the community may not show it all the time, your hard work, time, and effort put into this project means the world to all of us and Id just like to personally thank you guys.

Awesome Vid, Kyle told me crafting was coming along nice.
when it hits TC its gonna be like Christmas all over again!

[Ekaika]

Added my portion to the round table section of the update, elaborated on heightmaps in the closing.

Woowooooot!

[Aremathiea]

Woowooooot!

agreed


.......................
Actually I think im late on all this new news... I was not going to post anymore, but this is good.

[Maccajnr]

Heightmaps: This is an area that is holding us back in the area of NPC movement and structure placement at the moment. We know a number of ways to implement this, but are searching for an efficient alternative to the methods we already know. Currently, we will be able to generate a huge file with all the z values for every x/y coordinate pair, but the problem we have is being able to manage all that data in a sensible way (save memory, fast request time etc). Educated idea's on how to manage huge heightmaps are welcome.


I'm not undertanding this really well. The client and the character is moving correctly on the map, following the surface correctly for every ups and down. So what prevents the Npcs and structures to follow the same rules?

[vorta]

oh wow can't wait miss that so much :)

[Seaseme]

I'm not undertanding this really well. The client and the character is moving correctly on the map, following the surface correctly for every ups and down. So what prevents the Npcs and structures to follow the same rules?
Because the client doesn't send that data to prevent things like clipping or to determine if you can or can't shoot through a hill or a wall. It's all stored server side which is what they're trying to figure out.

[bongandbeer]

Gänsehaut,.... thats the word that describes the feeling i get when i see your work,... i dont know the word in english, ... its ... thrilling !!!

i love you all devs !!!

[Legoklas]

Hmm that heightmap problem seems to be a huge task :( :O
Hope we have a smart ass on the forum who can help you guys :)

[Xeonz]

Good Job, Where getting ever closer to the rebirth of galaxies, woot ^^

[Traged-G]

Gänsehaut,.... thats the word that describes the feeling i get when i see your work,... i dont know the word in english, ... its ... thrilling !!!

i love you all devs !!!

Goosebumps is the word you're looking for, which is a pretty accurate description.

[TheA-froChild]

Yay for the devs! :)

[Maccajnr]

Because the client doesn't send that data to prevent things like clipping or to determine if you can or can't shoot through a hill or a wall. It's all stored server side which is what they're trying to figure out.


So the client knows the hight and not the server? Sorry my brain is slow this friday :(
The mini radar knows this at least, it shows the exact hight where I stand. So where does it find that info from? I mean, can't the npc (the server) read its current hight from the same location, like a copy of that on the server?

[Macrona]

It already does, that syncs the players, but that doesn't help the NPCs.

[andy012538]

heya great news on the up date and i just wonted to say i love the new format of the bi weekly update very efficiant and help full

[Snoani]

Great job guys. You deserve more than a pat on the back.

I can't wait for it to be released and to test it. Although I am flat out busy at the moment and will be for the next two weeks, I shall then be in a position to relax in the evening and weekends and test to my hearts content.

[apowerr]

Woot! Great work :)

[Kateb Ibliss]

Great job! Keep it up guys.

[Curse]

Kick ass nice job guys. One thing that bugged me though is that the general crafting tool never let you expirament, but I assume that is coming later. :)

[portallzaine]

I dont even know how its possible for you guys to kick any more ass... hell, I dont know how its even possible for you to kick the arse thats bein kicked atm...

/deepbow2

[rwp389]

Hmm that heightmap problem seems to be a huge task :( :O
Hope we have a smart ass on the forum who can help you guys :)

Dude I just watched the whole movie that is in your banner....

[Ekaika]

......................
Actually I think im late on all this new news... I was not going to post anymore, but this is good.

You can post again, that time has fortunately now passed.

[Rynne]

this why the tc has been down all day?

[aeigis]

Heightmaps , oah the nightmare of tons of data on a text file for a server to sift through. Have you considered breaking the maps up into equal sized quadrants and having another server precache the zones? Then loading them when active? I've seen alot of success loading zones as active once a player is in a 4x4 radius also should take in the consideration the speed of vehicles and increasing that radius. Having another server specifically tuned to load those zones or a new thread in the current engine is your best option. Attempting to toss it on the current engine without having it run on its own is going to take server load to the max.

[rwp389]

I think the TC went down because they are starting to impliment schematics and misc... :0

[Vastor]

Well done.

[Vrej]

Oh my sweet jesus! Crafting!!!

Many thanks to Kyle, Ritter, Link and Ramey!

Hell yeah!

[Rynne]

looking forward to testing it, whenever the server gets back online =|

[Serpentkaa]

Oh my sweet jesus! Crafting!!!

Many thanks to Kyle, Ritter, Link and Ramey!

Hell yeah!

Second to that opinion! Hell yeah!

[Thorzon]

Wonderful I am create a Crafter and have him work!

[kTam]

Dear SWGEMU team, you are the greatest! The crafting looks perfect!

There are heaps of people who are following your work but don't write on here, and I just wanted to say thanks and I can't wait to start crafting, planting harvestors, vendors etc! really cant wait...!

kTam.

[onik]

Great work, things are moving along nicely can't wait for crafting in the TC :)

[Legoklas]

Dude I just watched the whole movie that is in your banner....

Tarp! :D

[wfire]

Just wanted to say thanks to the swgemu team. I know you have lives to lead outside this project and I just wanted to tell you how grateful we all are for your hard work. Welcome Bobius, sounds like you are a very powerful addition to the team. Keep it up and make sure you take care of your school work first and or wife and kids, those are the important things in life, right ahead of swgemu. Take care.

[Etide_Baklost]

Can't wait for this! Looks awesome guys! Keep up the great work in bringing back SWG to the glorious times we all had in pre-cu days

[Jennero]

Sweet crafting almost done. For the height maps can't you put them in a database and access a certain amount of cords when your are placing a building? I don't think you need all of the cords from others planets when you are placing a build on a different one. Or have a database file load when you switch planets. One file per planet or something? Well you guys know more then I do I'm sure you can figure it out.

[MikeCool]

Thanks Kyle.

I absolutly love this. :)

[TankGun]

Amazing, jsut amazing as always. The Emu is definitly on the way to being the great game it once was and then some. Keep up the good work guys ;)

[RedheartTempest]

Thanks for the update....Looking forward to more testing kyle

[Legoklas]

Man, is it just me, or is Yoda allittle over used in here? :P

[Inkanta12-lolz]

I havnt been on ina while, but i do know that we've all been waiting for a update, and im sure this will satisfy everyone. Good job devs, keep up the good work!



Btw, when do i get to be a admin? /wrist :D

[Ekaika]

Btw, when do i get to be a admin? /wrist :D

Do you know just how funny that REALLY is? Lulz! :D

[salmarino]

New Orleans represent!!

Great job guys, just curious bobius, where you stayin now? You a Katrina victim too? :D

[n1nj4]

Impressive

[Lion84]

When is the planned roll-out date for this amazing work to the TC? Or is "very soon" the most specific info we'll get before it's actually patched out? :)

[bobius]

New Orleans represent!!

Great job guys, just curious bobius, where you stayin now? You a Katrina victim too? :D

Yup, I'm from Da Parish, so we lost everything.

I live in the Uptown area now.

[Legoklas]

Yup, I'm from Da Parish, so we lost everything.

I live in the Uptown area now.

Wow, no insurence? :?

[bobius]

Wow, no insurence? :?

Unlike in SWG, Insurance doesn't bring your stuff back... :(

[Admiral8Crunch]

I did live in Mandeville.

[CharAznable]

Awesome job guys, keep up the good work, can't wait to try crafting.

[Livek]

Cool, its good to see all the progress of the emu. Albeit slow progress.

Very very slow progress.




You guys are slow.


(I kid, GJ all :p)

[dark one]

Rock on

[_DM_]

Awesome news! SWGEmu da bezt!

[SWGEmu ftw!]

/give Kyle, Ritter and Link pats on their backs
Great job guys! Looks amazing!

[gundulf]

I am new to the community but i got to say i love you guys, i left the glaxies about 5 years ago and you made me come back, and i am just diying to be able to craft, keep the good work !

[Aedales]

I am new to the community but i got to say i love you guys, i left the glaxies about 5 years ago and you made me come back, and i am just diying to be able to craft, keep the good work !

Welcome to the community gundulf

[Fars]

w00t w00t! welcome! we're all super hyped to play SWG again, in it's true form. look forward to getting to you know gundulf!

[Legoklas]

I am new to the community but i got to say i love you guys, i left the glaxies about 5 years ago and you made me come back, and i am just diying to be able to craft, keep the good work !

Hi there!
Follow this project but be aware! A huge number of ppl have turned gay here :D
So buy a playboy magazine everytime you feel the urge of writing " I want to give birth to your son devs!!"
Or something gay like that ^^

[toro45]

AWSOME!! Cant wait to be an architech again :)

[Rampage]

I did live in Mandeville.



Jamaica??

[Erif Lionheart]

I am excited about crafting being wrapped up in the game. I am ready to go back to being a Droid Engineer. I enjoyed making droids, it was alot fun knowing, when you were walking around a city and you saw a player with a droid following him/her, you kinda said to yourself, "Hey self, that might be one of the droids I made for that person." Its a rewarding feeling.

[phreack]

wow...haven't checked in on the emu in a long time, things are progressing amazingly. Been broke for a while, but as soon as I've got some spare dough, I'll chip in again...it's crazy that you guys do this all for essentially free.

Anyway, regarding the height mapping issue...I know you requested educated ideas, and this one isn't very much so, but just a thought that popped into my head when reading about it. I know of some games that use a fractal to generate terrain (the Tribes family of FPS's, for example). I assume that SW:G doesn't do this, but to go along those lines, would it be possible to find an equation that describes the terrain sufficiently instead of a huge database of x,y,z coordinates? Probably not, but just figured I'd throw it out there.

keep up the great work devs...I can't wait to play Pre-CU!

[yalin]

Wow its been a long time since i also looked in on emu, cant wait for this now looks like you ugys have don a hell of a lot.

[vorta]

HAHA I love your sig Erif lol

[Dorkybob]

Heightmaps: This is an area that is holding us back in the area of NPC movement and structure placement at the moment. We know a number of ways to implement this, but are searching for an efficient alternative to the methods we already know. Currently, we will be able to generate a huge file with all the z values for every x/y coordinate pair, but the problem we have is being able to manage all that data in a sensible way (save memory, fast request time etc). Educated idea's on how to manage huge heightmaps are welcome.


There is something that I had always wondered about and I know that you are in the development stage of this process, and this would be the time to consider this I think. Rangers used to be able to place tents of varying sizes and shapes, and those tents would adjust the heightmap and level the ground no matter where it was placed. Could this general idea be applied to the City Halls of cities? That way there is no real concern about terrain for city construction, because every city will get a nice flat surface to build on. The "Flattened" land could also be the diameter of the limits of the city size, and grow as the city size increases.

[TAfirehawk]

There is something that I had always wondered about and I know that you are in the development stage of this process, and this would be the time to consider this I think. Rangers used to be able to place tents of varying sizes and shapes, and those tents would adjust the heightmap and level the ground no matter where it was placed. Could this general idea be applied to the City Halls of cities? That way there is no real concern about terrain for city construction, because every city will get a nice flat surface to build on. The "Flattened" land could also be the diameter of the limits of the city size, and grow as the city size increases.

This is a bit off-topic....but do you mean the entire city radius flat?

Personally I liked having to go out and find a decent spot for a large city. But I would like the land immediately around each building to build up flat like a camp, just not the entire city radius.

This should probably be discussed in the Future Server Ideas forum :)

[TankGun]

This is a bit off-topic....but do you mean the entire city radius flat?

Personally I liked having to go out and find a decent spot for a large city. But I would like the land immediately around each building to build up flat like a camp, just not the entire city radius.

This should probably be discussed in the Future Server Ideas forum :)
That would be a good thing to bring up.

[Lissik]

really nothing i can say fellas.. i been waiting since nge/bse/forever to play "my game" again... i cant wait thanks ALL of you .

[Wilzon]

Awesome!

I've been sick for almost two weeks and been confined to the bed.
Coming back to read this is just :emperor:.

I'm glad I've donated :D ;)

[drewpey]

well done guys! brings back some good memories....even just hearing the sounds and the clicks reminds me of the joy I got from crafting...

the crafting system is what really set SWG apart from the other games out there...thank you for doing it justice!

Keep up the good work!

[Evilandy311]

excellent, however i did notice one thing and i'm not sure if it's there and just hasn't been implemented yet, when you gain ranks in a artisan class you don't neccicarily get the schematics transfered to your data pad... not sure if it just hasn't been handled yet or what?

[Jot'ika]

I am really impressed with the progress bein made in the last bit, good job guys.

[XeroOrez]

my god i love you guys, in a non sexual way

[Legoklas]

I am really impressed with the progress bein made in the last bit, good job guys.

Man ur a bit late arnt ya? ;)

[zetlaux]

I am really impressed with the progress bein made in the last bit, good job guys.

Yeah I haven't been around the project that long, but I read a lot more than I post. These last few months have been really incredible for the emu. It is very exciting.

[Legoklas]

Indeed, its been really exciting, but then again we waited sooo long for it :)
Just hope the worst part is over, it will be hard to choose from Age Of Conan and SWGEmu when iam on leave from the army xD

[CaptJones]

HAHA I love your sig Erif lolThat's one nasty bug..

[jonaku]

very nice update, congrats on the great progress

[USMCNick]

Great job guys, I really appreciate your work on this project!

Hoorah! Semper Fi!

[ThEgg]

Yay for update posts :]

Can't wait for the summer to begin for you guys (cause I'm sure my knowledge of programming couldn't help much for anything, expect maybe concepts/algorithims).

[Jot'ika]

I am really impressed with the progress bein made in the last bit, good job guys.

Man ur a bit late arnt ya? ;)

I thought i was still early, hehe.

[MajiinFreddy]

When this goes live I will reward thee with money! :P

I want to make clothes again <3