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bobius
05-03-2008, 01:04 AM
I've just committed the first revision of Blue Frogs into the SVN -- blue frog NPCs. Expect to see them on TC some time in the near future.

The reason I say this is the first revision is because Blue Frogs, as you remember them from the SOE test center, were these big ugly blue terminals. In order for me to implement them in that way, I'll need to capture packets, so I can see how the terminal windows work. I have to wait for the SOE TestCenter to come back up for that (blue frogs are not on TCPrime).

In the mean time, I've implemented blue frogs in the form of NPCs. You will notice several "Jawa Traders" in Anchorhead. Communicate with them and they will give you items and train you in professions to test with.

For now on, newly created characters will only spawn with the items that should spawn with their novice starting profession. You can go to one of the Jawa Traders and get whatever items you need to test.

Once BFs hit the TC, you should work with your profession representative to request items or professions that you would like added to the blue frogs to make testing a specific area more efficient.

If you have any questions feel free to send me a PM or hit me up in IRC. I'm usually idling in the #openDev channel.

Smusatto
05-03-2008, 01:06 AM
Nice. :D

Runny
05-03-2008, 01:08 AM
3rd

vorta
05-03-2008, 01:08 AM
sweet thats awesome bobius great job :)

SethonC.
05-03-2008, 01:48 AM
Amazing! :D

Serifin
05-03-2008, 01:54 AM
Sweet!

DeCastro
05-03-2008, 02:06 AM
great.

OldMaster
05-03-2008, 02:12 AM
I say: BOBIUS FOR PRESIDENT!!! :D :lightsaber:

Ekaika
05-03-2008, 02:21 AM
Sweet!

Samcuu
05-03-2008, 02:28 AM
its okay blue jawas are just as good as blue frogs :D

David
05-03-2008, 02:42 AM
kant

Serpentkaa
05-03-2008, 02:43 AM
/cheer

And Samcuu is right, Jawas are as good, if not better than blue frogs.

bobius
05-03-2008, 02:51 AM
Thanks guys.. Yeah, it's not a matter of what it looks like. I can make it look like ablue frog now, but I thought it'd be weird having a terminal talking to you like an NPC...

_DM_
05-03-2008, 03:24 AM
Jawa Blue Frog? Thats cool! :D

Airbag
05-03-2008, 03:31 AM
Nice work! Jawas FTW!

Jacko
05-03-2008, 03:49 AM
Thats Amazing! Good Job! SeXaY Beast!

Lorrianna
05-03-2008, 04:29 AM
Once BFs hit the TC, I'm going to start a thread in the test center forum called. "Blue Frog Requests". That is where you can request that we add items or professions to the blue frogs that would make testing a specific area more efficient.


I know Kyle said in the 5/1 Bi-Weekly Update that more code around crafting will be coming out "in the next few updates".

What plans do you have for resource availability on the Blue Frogs?

How do you want to gather requirements for each Prof's needs? I would suggest that each Prof. Rep. collect this data and submit to you, rather than individuals posting in the thread you mentioned.

What do you think? I'll ask TAFirehawk and Kyle to look at this and comment.

isiw
05-03-2008, 04:54 AM
excellent choice of npc :D

okegima
05-03-2008, 05:25 AM
so cool more stuff for test an give feed back thx

Max
05-03-2008, 05:51 AM
I know Kyle said in the 5/1 Bi-Weekly Update that more code around crafting will be coming out "in the next few updates".

What plans do you have for resource availability on the Blue Frogs?

How do you want to gather requirements for each Prof's needs? I would suggest that each Prof. Rep. collect this data and submit to you, rather than individuals posting in the thread you mentioned.

What do you think? I'll ask TAFirehawk and Kyle to look at this and comment.
I totally agree. Once the Representative forum is up and running, bobius can create a thread, and the community should contact their Rep to ask about things being added. Otherwise we will probably get spam, silly suggestions, and more spam.

And Bobius, very nice work.

Ekaika
05-03-2008, 06:22 AM
Can we kill the Jawa? I like slaughtering little jawas :emperor:

theuprax
05-03-2008, 06:34 AM
Wooteeeneeee!

webbwbb
05-03-2008, 07:21 AM
With them being jawa traders sometimes you should get items with extremely low condition (remember the first astromech Luke and Lars got?)

TAfirehawk
05-03-2008, 08:07 AM
I know Kyle said in the 5/1 Bi-Weekly Update that more code around crafting will be coming out "in the next few updates".

What plans do you have for resource availability on the Blue Frogs?

How do you want to gather requirements for each Prof's needs? I would suggest that each Prof. Rep. collect this data and submit to you, rather than individuals posting in the thread you mentioned.

What do you think? I'll ask TAFirehawk and Kyle to look at this and comment.

This is exactly what the Prof Rep Program is for....filter 1000's of comments through a small group to make concise reports/requests to the Team.

All the Reps need to get prepared to take requests from their communities.....especially the crafters.

Iorri Toce'tah
05-03-2008, 08:08 AM
great work jawas FTW

Xiox
05-03-2008, 08:15 AM
Better idea, lets skin some Blue Jawas, that way you get a little bit of both :P

GJ!

TAfirehawk
05-03-2008, 08:47 AM
And they work nicely!!!!

Is it possible to have one for combat and one for crafting?


EDIT: And the weapon set MUST include a Carbine.... :p

Vashman
05-03-2008, 09:07 AM
woot! great works guys :D

vorta
05-03-2008, 09:15 AM
I say keep them Jawas. Screw those weird looking blue statues lol

bobius
05-03-2008, 09:33 AM
How do you want to gather requirements for each Prof's needs? I would suggest that each Prof. Rep. collect this data and submit to you, rather than individuals posting in the thread you mentioned.

That's perfect, actually. I like that idea a lot.

And they work nicely!!!!

Is it possible to have one for combat and one for crafting?


EDIT: And the weapon set MUST include a Carbine.... :p

It's possible, but it really would be more trouble than it's worth. The little guys can handle both. If the list gets to long, I can always break it up. I added the ability for NPC conversations to keep states, so you can have more complex conversations.

IE:
Character: What professions can you teach me?
BF:What kind of profession are you interested in?
(Options crafting or combat)
Character: Crafting
BF: I can teach you the following crafting professions...

... and yes, I'm planning on updating the weapon set as my next project. Giving them some better stats too..

Tephros
05-03-2008, 09:38 AM
Well this will help testing no end, good job boob.

Caedus.C
05-03-2008, 09:49 AM
Sweet! Thanks for your hard work! Keep up the fine job :)

USMCNick
05-03-2008, 10:20 AM
Hoorah! Nice Work!

RedheartTempest
05-03-2008, 10:33 AM
Thank you for the update. Im glad we are getting more like the original. Better when we dont need the frogs lol but im happy to have them over the many npc trainers lol.

TheA-froChild
05-03-2008, 10:48 AM
Woot!!!!

Legoklas
05-03-2008, 10:58 AM
cool

Ekowraith
05-03-2008, 10:58 AM
really awesome. i can't wait:D

toro45
05-03-2008, 11:22 AM
Blue Frogs FTW!

Tolbat
05-03-2008, 11:42 AM
may your great deeds live forever

thanks for the hard work, from all of us

MrBlonde
05-03-2008, 11:44 AM
Awesome news. I can't wait to see them. :)

Tristan Thorn
05-03-2008, 12:13 PM
I'm guessing they are putting them in now. since the server is down.

Me'ne
05-03-2008, 12:36 PM
OH Yay! <3

Roidrage667
05-03-2008, 12:51 PM
Awesome stuff.

blackfox77
05-03-2008, 02:18 PM
Get a new reply that's not so "mundane" Roid.


LEWLZ.


Anyways, great work. I can't wait to get onto the TC and try this stuff out.

Baak'Cha
05-03-2008, 02:34 PM
Sweet! You guys rock to the max!

Isan Geron
05-03-2008, 02:51 PM
I'm guessing they are putting them in now. since the server is down.

that would rule lol but i doubt it

Darksund
05-03-2008, 03:11 PM
nice man thanks reinstalling swg right now

praxi34
05-03-2008, 03:11 PM
Great work Bobius! :)

Ekaika
05-03-2008, 03:53 PM
that would rule lol but i doubt it

I wouldn't ;)

Isan Geron
05-03-2008, 03:53 PM
yeah i am beginning to believe it is the case

Tristan Thorn
05-03-2008, 03:57 PM
Who called it? If blue frog is up today, i get an oppressors robe and Jedi :D.

Ekaika
05-03-2008, 03:59 PM
Nope, no jedi, but you will be able to test what's on TC.

DoMiNaTe
05-03-2008, 04:10 PM
Sweeet.

Kateb Ibliss
05-03-2008, 04:49 PM
Nice! Good work.

Yosie
05-03-2008, 04:52 PM
Wooot i remember the splash a while ago, like october i think saying ulty was working on one lol =)

Isan Geron
05-03-2008, 05:06 PM
DAMN I WANT TO PLAY IT BEFORE WORK!
lol

Zekk
05-03-2008, 07:29 PM
Server is up, no Jawa traders in AH or Bestine spotted thusfar. A bunch of people are looking for them atm.

Ovil0
05-03-2008, 10:00 PM
Yay! Nice Work Emu team!

Zaff
05-05-2008, 03:56 PM
I love the good news. Maybe they have hidden some blue jawas to keep people busy searching for them. :p

Vashman
05-05-2008, 10:33 PM
When the blue frog jawas are added in every one will know it since they will be easy find

TAfirehawk
05-05-2008, 10:48 PM
When the blue frog jawas are added in every one will know it since they will be easy find

Very true....they will be around the shuttle/cloner/trainers in Anchorhead...unless they get moved from their current location.

iamtheninja
05-05-2008, 11:58 PM
so i gotta ask, will there be a data base wipe with this update?

sorry if this question is innapropriate, or posted in the wrong place.

Vashman
05-06-2008, 12:06 AM
Probably not but when crafting is added it in from what has been posted the db will be wiped then :D

Caedus.C
05-06-2008, 11:09 PM
Anyone found em frogs? :D

iamtheninja
05-06-2008, 11:33 PM
no caedus, as of 2:00pm Central Time, there blue frogs/jawas were not implemented yet.

TAfirehawk
05-07-2008, 10:37 PM
I have said where....and the when is whenever they show up ;)

NekYad
05-07-2008, 11:02 PM
But "Why?" is the next question we must ask ourselves.

Orlaf
05-07-2008, 11:03 PM
why.. they show up..? 0.o.. BECAUSE DEVELOPERS LOVE US ALL!!

Tolbat
05-08-2008, 03:02 AM
Blue frogs come because it is the will of the Force

Jazza
05-08-2008, 04:07 AM
what exactly is the function of a blue frog?
I am guessing it is to somehow help in testing...

Has anyone heard of the Red Frogs at schoolies? they help people and make pancakes!

Do blue frogs make pancakes? What do Green Frogs do then?







((KEEP UP THE AWESOME WORK))

(((Maybe we should have a frog hunt when they are implemented?)))

Aremathiea
05-08-2008, 04:32 AM
what exactly is the function of a blue frog?
I am guessing it is to somehow help in testing...

Has anyone heard of the Red Frogs at schoolies? they help people and make pancakes!

Do blue frogs make pancakes? What do Green Frogs do then?







((KEEP UP THE AWESOME WORK))

(((Maybe we should have a frog hunt when they are implemented?)))

Grab in game items to test without looking for drops- Walk up, get what you want to test, go test and report. I suppose that is all.

Caedus.C
05-08-2008, 04:44 AM
Green frogs are the ones that jump on your face after you stare at a pond long enough :D

The Jawas aren't there yet... maybe we need to put down some junk as tribute...

OldMaster
05-08-2008, 05:58 AM
I think Green Frogs are the rodians :rolleyes:

Caedus.C
05-11-2008, 12:49 AM
Well the green frogs can go do whatever they want...

Its the blue ones I'm after >:)

Tristan Thorn
05-11-2008, 06:39 AM
It's been a week, no blue frogs?

Jazza
05-11-2008, 07:12 AM
It's been a week, no blue frogs?

I think they want us to start a riot :D

david665
05-11-2008, 03:11 PM
Jawas are more Star Warsy and Iconic....

Tristan Thorn
05-11-2008, 03:12 PM
Let's give in. TESTING STRIKE.

Ekowraith
05-11-2008, 05:23 PM
jaaaaawas! bluuuuuuee frogs! jaaaaawas! bluuuuuuee frogs!

Saromus
05-11-2008, 05:29 PM
Please be patient. I think bobius is waiting till he can get some packets that are sniffed from SWG's TC so we can implement the REAL model of the blue frog instead of a jawa, i just happent to have sniffed those packets a few days ago, i've been waiting for Bobius to get on IRC to tell him so then we can get that up and running, i'll talk to bobius about an ETA, it all depends on nailing down the bugs and making sure it works correctly.

Tothix
05-11-2008, 05:32 PM
I like Jawas better.:D

Saromus
05-11-2008, 05:33 PM
Yea i know the double post, i just deleted it, my internet was acting freaky double clicked submit reply i figured it would double post, hate when that happens.

Ya the point is that right now the Blue Frogs have just loaded into the SVN along with the new IDLC Updates, it'll probaly take a while to test those new updates, be on the look out for the BiWeekly update coming up maybe there will be some information concerning the Blue Frog ;)

Tothix
05-11-2008, 05:50 PM
Yea i know the double post, i just deleted it, my internet was acting freaky double clicked submit reply i figured it would double post, hate when that happens.

Ya the point is that right now the Blue Frogs have just loaded into the SVN along with the new IDLC Updates, it'll probaly take a while to test those new updates, be on the look out for the BiWeekly update coming up maybe there will be some information concerning the Blue Frog

We all make mistakes. Always happens to me. ;)

nostyleguy
05-11-2008, 05:58 PM
i think a jawa trader is a better choice than a blue frog. But i still understand the testing necessary regardless of the model used. Patience is a virtue

Saromus
05-11-2008, 06:07 PM
As soon as Bobius gets on IRC i'll talk to him about the blue frogs.

Etheco
05-11-2008, 06:14 PM
As soon as Bobius gets on IRC i'll talk to him about the blue frogs.

Thanks :D, look forward to hearing from you.

Saromus
05-11-2008, 06:19 PM
Thanks :D, look forward to hearing from you.

No Problem, we wouldn't want players to start getting impatient lol
But it still depends on the time the devs have, and the amount of testing that can get done, I don't know the schedule for when the devs usually transfer the source to the TC but i just know that there has to be alot of bug smashing before it comes anywhere near TC hehe

bobius
05-11-2008, 06:55 PM
The code for the blue frogs has been in place since the original post in this thread was posted. Usually test center is updated with the latest code base every few days. I can't give you an ETA, because as far as I'm concerned it's ready. Now, it is possible that TA tried to put in on TC and it caused some sort of problem that he hasn't talked to me about yet or they're doing a stress test to see how long they can keep the TC up without rebooting. Sorry for the wait. It'll be in with the next update for sure. I just don't know when the next update will be pushed to TC.

Etheco
05-11-2008, 07:52 PM
The code for the blue frogs has been in place since the original post in this thread was posted. Usually test center is updated with the latest code base every few days. I can't give you an ETA, because as far as I'm concerned it's ready. Now, it is possible that TA tried to put in on TC and it caused some sort of problem that he hasn't talked to me about yet or they're doing a stress test to see how long they can keep the TC up without rebooting. Sorry for the wait. It'll be in with the next update for sure. I just don't know when the next update will be pushed to TC.

thanks for highlighting on the area :D. cant wait hope the stress test goes good :)

SCRIBBLEZ
05-11-2008, 08:18 PM
i would like to vote to keep the jawas instead of returning to the blue frogs. the devs never were very inventive in a good way lets face it. i think the jawas are much more star wars. the reason soe made stupid things like frogs was for the people who cant take 2 min to search for a npc. this is the emu allthough a copy of original..id like to see it done right and keeping in star wars theme. fantastic idea by devs to use jawas since they were useless otherwise in the game.

Saromus
05-11-2008, 08:23 PM
I'll talk to Bobius about holding an Official Poll for the community to decide whether we should keep the Jawas or change it to what it really looks like. Either way a Character Builder Terminal wasnt really a "Star Warsy" thing on behalf of SOE, i mean its not like you would see a Blue Frog just siitting there in a Scene during one of the Star Wars movies lol.

TAfirehawk
05-11-2008, 08:28 PM
Seems simple to me...we are creating a pre-CU clone of what SOE did. Everybody knows what a Blue Frog is...well most everybody...so having a normal looking Jawa Trader defeats the purpose IMO.

Saromus
05-11-2008, 08:45 PM
To add what TA said, to let you all know the Blue Frog was implemented during PreCu. If you don't believe me let me know i will get you the link to the Test Center patch notes. Like i said i feel that the community would want a Poll at least so they can have a say on what would be best for the blue frog, a Jawa, or a Character Builder Terminal model. No one said that the model will no longer be a Jawa.

If you are just going to "complain" on how you want the model to be a Jawa or a Terminal please don't discuss it here

bobius
05-11-2008, 09:27 PM
If you are just going to "complain" on how you want the model to be a Jawa or a Terminal please don't discuss it here; discuss it with Bobius via a PM or on IRC.

uhh.. I don't want people PMing me to complain about what they want.. Don't take that advice.

I can probably just make everyone happy by having both..

/endtopic