TC:Nova Wipe 10/9/2010

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TC:Nova Wipe 10/9/2010
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TC:Nova Wipe 10/9/2010

At approximately 11:00 AM EST, TC:Nova was wiped of the following items:

All Characters
All Inventories
All Structures & Cities
All Auctions & Banks
All Datapad Items
All Resource Spawns
We sincerely apologize for this inconvenience and hope you understand this is a necessary step as the project progresses. More specifically, this was done in order to test the newly implemented zoning rights and city upgrade features. Here is a quick blurb from the developer cRush on some of the new implementations.

City Advancement and City Rank
Cities now have a rank associated with them which is based on how many citizens have declared residency within the city limits.

City Ranks:
Rank 1: Outpost - 10 Citizens
Rank 2: Village - 20 Citizens
Rank 3: Township - 35 Citizens
Rank 4: City - 55 Citizens
Rank 5: Metropolis - 85 Citizens

Currently, city rank can only be updated once per hour by going to the City Management Terminal in the City Hall and selecting City Info > Status Report from the Radial menu. This action can only be performed once per hour, currently, so save it for when you know you are ready for the next rank!

City Population can be checked as well by going to the City Management Terminal in the City Hall and selection City Info > Citizenship Report. A system message containing the total number of declared citizens will be displayed.

You will notice that some civic structures, i.e. Shuttleport and Banks, now require a certain city rank before allowing placement. Currently, the message is bugged, and indicates that the required city rank is whatever your cities current rank is! This bug will be fixed with the next TC update!

Below is a list of common civic structures, and their required city rank:

Bank - City Rank 2
Cantina - City Rank 2
Cloning Facility - City Rank 3
Medical Facility (Hospital) - City Rank 3
Theatre - City Rank 4
Shuttleport - City Rank 4


As always, please report any bugs you find at www.swgemu.com/bugs and enjoy testing the new items!

-- The SWGEmu Team

[Omegataco]

Progress. Yum.

[RagnarokStrike]

Great news! Keep up the good work!

[hakry]

Thanks for the update as always Dame!

[Vlada]

Progress indeed.

[Shoryuu]

Sweet.

[Arulius]

Good deal...now on to more testing!

[DeadAlliance]

Awesome!

Thanks for the update!

[myrbx]

Cool!

[kaptainkrazy]

Does the rank of the city have anything to do with distance from city hall for zoning rights, like it did in live? and are they going to be the same numbers as live or are they going to be different?

[AtomicGecko]

Thank you!
progress is good :)

[Airi Sweetheart]

Moar becuz moar

[Airi Sweetheart]

You know I love how you guys are updating us on changes in the OR. Keeping us up to date is going to force me to start donating.

[Franknol]

Any 54 guys for help me to get rank 4? lol

[Rabidgerbil38]

Awesome! thanks for the update :)

[Haazzen]

Whats the number count for the different ranks?

[fatherjack]

Cool, cool, nothing but pleased about it! I agree that the communication is great. The clear reasoning is very reassuring.

[Supa]

Whats the number count for the different ranks?
The numbers are in the initial post.

[Valkyra]

Quick Question, weren't only cities Rank 3 and above listed on the Satellite map under the city tab?

Right now Ranks 1 and 2 are listed as well.

[Valkyra]

Quick Question, weren't only cities Rank 3 and above listed on the Satellite map under the city tab?

Right now Ranks 1 and 2 are listed as well.

I can't seem to edit my post here, so I will just say I distinctly remember it at least being rank 2 and above listed, because the first guild I was in's player city was only outpost and I was confused as to why it wasn't showing up on the map since it was closest to Tyrena so I had to put a waypoint down ti my house.

[Supa]

I'm not sure, but I think it's this way so people can find cities and populate them.

[Valkyra]

Nevermind my prior posts, cRush talked to me about it in IRC, it's just not implemented yet.

[Rodd]

keep um coming!

[BlazeHoliday]

thx for the update!

[JackAttack]

Updates are always appreciated. keep up all the good/hard work, you all are making a dream come true for us.

[tomis16]

Thats a nice update! I saw it in the tracker and really liked, Thx and keep it up!

[muteprovocateur]

Quick question: Will cities without the minimum 10 citizens be purged after 24 hrs?

Thanks for the update guys, I appreciate the hard work.

[Shoryuu]

Quick question: Will cities without the minimum 10 citizens be purged after 24 hrs?

Thanks for the update guys, I appreciate the hard work.

Thats not quite implemented just yet. Only restrictions for city levels.

[britbee]

awesome! this is how the cities should be :)

[Jedimegon]

Sweet! Got to love progress!!

[Tuddyrex]

I like wipes. to me it usually means alot of new stuff added or stuff fixed.
good sign of progress.

keep up the good work

[Brandnew]

looking to join a serious city. pm me please.
thanks
brandnew

[CovertCabbage]

looking to join a serious city. pm me please.
thanks
brandnew

No point to join a city now with all the wipes.

[Brandnew]

checked ingame and yeah no point atm.
scrap my request.
thanks

[kaptainkrazy]

Does the rank of the city have anything to do with distance from city hall for zoning rights, like it did in live? and are they going to be the same numbers as live or are they going to be different?

Anyone?

[Supa]

Anyone?
The numbers are in the initial post.
Read the OP before you ask questions. :)

[Tigerfang]

Does the rank of the city have anything to do with distance from city hall for zoning rights, like it did in live? and are they going to be the same numbers as live or are they going to be different?

Rank is based on number of citizens and city radius is based on city rank, and all numbers were taken from the pre cu scrapbook by biophillia

[Fallenenjeru]

Hey guys,how do I actually download the EMU :P? Every link I click here just brings me to the forum start page :S

[Vlada]

Hey guys,how do I actually download the EMU :P? Every link I click here just brings me to the forum start page :S

Very wrong thread.


Still, do you have original SWG CD's?

[Fallenenjeru]

I know,just jumped on an active thread :( Sorry.. Anyway,yea I have the original discs..just resubbed and almost wept at what they'd done to the game. I'd rather play the EMU :).

[Vlada]

I know,just jumped on an active thread :( Sorry.. Anyway,yea I have the original discs..just resubbed and almost wept at what they'd done to the game. I'd rather play the EMU :).

Then just follow the blue link in my sig. :)

[kirkanoss]

thanks for all your time spent on this

[aaronsumner19]

i am having an issue logging into the game.. i can get on the forum but not the game it started the day after the wipe ive looked at the forums to see if i have missed something and have not found anything so far so if anyone has any info plz hook me up thx

[Vlada]

i am having an issue logging into the game.. i can get on the forum but not the game it started the day after the wipe ive looked at the forums to see if i have missed something and have not found anything so far so if anyone has any info plz hook me up thx

In order to help you I'm gonna need more details, to avoid spamming this thread needlessly please go to IRC #swgemusupport channel or just PM me.

[Mecinia Lu-a]

Quick question: Will cities without the minimum 10 citizens be purged after 24 hrs?

Thanks for the update guys, I appreciate the hard work.

Hopefully this comes soon, it is hard to tests cities with so many plobbing down as many as they can right after server up :)

I was a mayor on Wanderhome would like to test it more had no chance to lay a city, time I get on its all full again :(.

[ibispe]

Yeah, my city on Dant, I was able to get it up but not had much time to work on it, it is having issues with terrain though so going to probably be purged. Cannot find spots to place things, even had issues placing factories.

[Mecinia Lu-a]

I had a city on Rori before the 10/9 wipe, sadly it had sunk into the terrain and you couldn't interact with it.

I had managed to get a city on Dantooine this time after I posted above and not finding spots on other planets, it may be gone server been down a long time, it doesn't have enough citizens yet for sure. I was doing okay with placement though mine was over towards the lake near the dentari towns on the western edge.

Wipes are to be expected though as progress is made, and cities although some don't realize it are very vital parts of the community, places to rest, relax, get gear etc, having them working is essential I think.

[ibispe]

Mine is right NEXT to the Dantari village. Did not see you, what is it called? Mine is Catuli's Rest.

[Mecinia Lu-a]

I might be wrong what its called I thought yours was more south and east of mine.

I had called it Crystal Bay but its not right on the lake. In Wanderhome its close to where Phoenix City was at one time.

[Mecinia Lu-a]

Server's up mine's near the other lake and dantari village :)

[ibispe]

I must go look you up then. Catuli's Rest is a sister city to Oasis on Tatooine, some will be placing alts if we are still standing.

[Skidoosh]

Yeah for progress! I also noticed there are working mobs outside of the cities now, which I'm pumped about. I'm patiently waiting for scout/ranger, but in the mean time I will continue to look for other things to break :)

[Supa]

The mobs have been outside of the cities since the OR, haven't they? I remember seeing them as I was driving out of cnet to find a place to establish a house. :P

[Skidoosh]

The mobs have been outside of the cities since the OR, haven't they? I remember seeing them as I was driving out of cnet to find a place to establish a house. :P

Today was the first time I've seen them outside of cities on tat. For a few days I hadn't seen anything and those there were pathing back and forth

[clay4u]

thanks =)

[amh007]

any chance we could have the rank numbers reduced to something more realistic for the current population on test? maybe multiples of 5? i presume we're testing the functionality of everything involved rather than just the number of toons we have to create to get a shuttleport running.

i'll survive if it's not worth your effort but i figured i'd ask.

inb4 must match pre-cu, got it, but for the time being it would be helpful.

[Mecinia Lu-a]

Actually amh007 does make a valid argument, it might be easier to test with smaller numbers and change the numbers later to be the real ones. Up to you guys though.

[Testmule]

SOE actually lowered the requirments on Test Center Prime, when the server population dwindled... From what I recall, a tier 5 city required only 35 peeps. This might work better givin the current population of the OP.

Has anyone verified if the city specializations are in effect?

[Tigerfang]

city specializations have not been coded at this time afaik

[Testmule]

afaik?

[karadan]

As far as i know.

[bring_the_rain]

dose anyone know when it will shift back to normal?

[EVILJUDE]

when what will shift back to normal?

[badboy09]

when what will shift back to normal?

I am assuming that he thinks that the current population limits are wrong and waiting to go back to what they where b4 the last update.

[Tigerfang]

lol normal could be alot of things, we need specific information so we can help you bring_the_rain

[Tigerfang]

Due to the difficulty in getting a large number in cities at this time, we have lowered the citizen requirements for rankings.

The new numbers for testing phase only are as follows

Citizens required for each rank now: Outpost = 2, Village = 5, Township = 10, City = 15, Metropolis = 20

From cRush

[atticus13]

YAY!! Great News...thanks for the update!!

[Testmule]

However, The city radius is fubar, rank 3 city is 44m?

[Snowtigre]

Someone might have messed up with the numbers when they coded the Rank 3 advancement.. as 44m instead of the 300m+

[Testmule]

The 44m bug was fixed 5 mins after I posted that message...

[cRush]

Someone might have messed up with the numbers when they coded the Rank 3 advancement.. as 44m instead of the 300m+

It was because I was loading them into a uint8 which has a max value of 255, after which it wraps back around.

300 - 255 = 45 - 1 (for something else, probably sign) = 44 =]

[Valkyra]

It was because I was loading them into a uint8 which has a max value of 255, after which it wraps back around.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/s3f49ktz%28VS.80%29.aspx

For those of you wanting to know more about unsigned int8 (uint8)'s

[MarlonB]

It was because I was loading them into a uint8 which has a max value of 255, after which it wraps back around.

300 - 255 = 45 - 1 (for something else, probably sign) = 44 =]

Being cheap on variables is what brought us the Y2K problems ;)

[bring_the_rain]

well yes that was half my answer ^^. but i was wondering like when the blue frog will go away and we can grind on profs normaly...although its cool cuz i found out a good profs combo i liked but working to get master anything is better

[Ellyssia]

The Frogs will be on the server as long as they're needed, and no, I can't really be any more specific than that.

[firebird1968]

humping along good stuff

[Niki12]

hmm i was played here but i forgot this server.But now after wipe one friend tell me for news and i download game again and now update.I think the new items will be cool.Aways i am exiting from new thing in old game.I will be very happy if in new items have that i want ever. thanks for update now i go Enjoy and alll that read now and don't registered come to join Swgemu the best ever :lightsaber: srry for me bad english but i am not from US or UK.THanks for read!

[Niki12]

hmm i was played here but i forgot this server.But now after wipe one friend tell me for news and i download game again and now update.I think the new items will be cool.Aways i am exiting from new thing in old game.I will be very happy if in new items have that i want ever. thanks for update now i go Enjoy and alll that read now and don't registered come to join Swgemu the best ever :lightsaber: srry for me bad english but i am not from US or UK.THanks for read! Someone can give me some pics of new items pls me skype is bill8967

[Vlada]

But now after wipe one friend tell me for news and i download game again and now update.I think the new items will be cool.

You download the game? Where form?

[Flylighter]

You download the game? Where form?

How about not jumping to conclusions on that one. He said his English wasn't very good; he could've meant he installed again, or downloaded the client again, or any other number of things.

[cpuman]

wish people wouldn't post in old wipe posts anyways, makes the average forum user tense up for a moment.

[Vlada]

How about not jumping to conclusions on that one. He said his English wasn't very good; he could've meant he installed again, or downloaded the client again, or any other number of things.

That is a purpose of a question, to obtain more information so there wont be any misunderstandings or "jumping to conclusions".

[SixthHokage]

Steam, StationStore, Lucas Arts and Direct2Drive are all offering The Complete Online Adventures as downloads, they even have just download-shop-links on the SWG-website.

[hakry]

Steam, StationStore, Lucas Arts and Direct2Drive are all offering The Complete Online Adventures as downloads, they even have just download-shop-links on the SWG-website.

The downloaded version of SWG is not supported for SWGEmu, even if it was paid for.

To follow suite with the EULA for SOE, you must own the game on disks, and it is easily attained through places like eBay and Amazon.

[AlmightyGrain]

its amazing how much the blue frogs ruin the experience... and how the hell do we test lower level professions and actions with the blue frogs

[RagnarokStrike]

You want to keep regrinding after every wipe?

[iggi]

its amazing how much the blue frogs ruin the experience... and how the hell do we test lower level professions and actions with the blue frogs

you are not forced to use em :rolleyes:

if you wanna grind, then do it...

[AtomicGecko]

stop asking questions here!
read the topic..if it doesnt have to do with the wipe on that date dont reply here...damn there has been atleast 2 wipes since and we are still riding this thread?

Common OPs...step in and run this forum

[studrandbo]

uhh i would agree with gecko. please CLOSE this OLD thread. each time i see a new post on this forum i think something important has happened.

[Korran Starseeker]

agreed

[DokDeath]

its amazing how much the blue frogs ruin the experience... and how the hell do we test lower level professions and actions with the blue frogs


If the Staff here didn't think it necessary to have the Frogs,they,(The Frogs),would be gone. Simple really! ;)

[Mortekai]

also if you are observant with the frogs you dont have to master the profession, you can get any part of the prof. you want, you can get only novice if you want, or master, or anything in between. thats how you test lower level profs.

[Aango Fett]

I wish people would stop complaining about the frogs, it's pointless to test at this point without them. What is the point of grinding a character from the ground up, and then just having it wiped and removed because it's expendable.

There is a reason it's called "testing". This isn't a live server, and won't be for awhile.

[Shiriki]

I wish people would stop complaining about the frogs, it's pointless to test at this point without them. What is the point of grinding a character from the ground up, and then just having it wiped and removed because it's expendable.

There is a reason it's called "testing". This isn't a live server, and won't be for awhile.

While I agree on principle with you, there is another side to this: I have had people refuse to teach me skills with the words "shut up and use the frog" -> testing teaching is impossible at this point because people are just too stupid.
In my experience the blue frogs lead to "create char", "hump blue frog for master *insert favourite template*", "load up on blue frog equipment, buffs and whatever food its got" and beat the crap out of the guy standing next to you who just did the very same thing.
Sure, pvp gets thoroughly tested this way (although I have my doubts wether this really generates useful bugreports or just whine posts when *favourite template* fails) and maybe thats exactly what the devs want/need at this point. My impression wasn't that thats the current focus, but I could be mistaken.
I know there are people who use the blue frogs for real testing, but I believe those people wouldn't mind regrinding their toon after the wipe. If you want to shorten the grind just increase the xp gain on the server by factor 10 (that worked fine the last times that was done and I was given to understand that is very little work).

[lordnull]

It is my understanding that the crafting is the main thing undergoing test atm and in that case the frogs are the only viable method for that type of testing, especially if the resources are not available for all items to be crafted which is the case currently. I would hate to spend all my time looking for resources on all the planets only to find there was none to be found.

[Aango Fett]

If you use them to be lazy, then that's different. But for most of us, who use it for actual testing purposes, and not being an UB3R SWG GAWD, then we practically need them.

It drives me buck wild, when you grind a char to TKM, and have the server wiped the next evening.

[Lorrianna]

Ibispe, what was the coordinates of Catuli's Rest on Dantooine?

You were able to place a city, various buildings around it more so on Live than you can on Nova?