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  #241  
Old 04-27-2010, 04:12 PM
quadkidd02 quadkidd02 is offline
 
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edited for space...

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Originally Posted by Fel View Post
...but honestly decisions like this should require an overwhelming majority and bottom line...
8.12%+
10.38%+
14.54%=
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33.04% that voted for no (before poll "close")

22.72%+
44.23%( I could stop there...yes w/frogs is already more...before poll "close")=
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66.95% that voted for yes, more than double the no crowd (before poll "close")


8.00%+
10.23%+
15.40%=
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33.63% that voted for no (after poll "close")

22.45%+
43.91%(again, I could stop right there...)=
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66.36%that voted for yes (after poll "close")

hmm....math prevails over the "no wipe" decision.
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  #242  
Old 04-27-2010, 04:13 PM
Deus In Machina Deus In Machina is offline
 
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Originally Posted by odwill View Post
Hello again EMU community.

The past few days have been crazy around here. We took this polling endeavor seriously and we were hoping for a better outcome. However, the team has been bombarded with concerns and questions by the community over the wipe poll and the possible outcomes. Therefore, due to voting disparities with new accounts, adverse affect on the community of the polling process, and unaddressed issues, we are calling off the poll and the possibility of a wipe. We will stick to the original statement and wipe for the OR when the time comes. As always, we are committed to providing you all with a solid community and game environment. We thought that holding this poll would give the community a voice and a chance at a little more participation.

What we now realize is it may cause more damage then good in the end. To our entire community, we are sorry if this poll in any way affected you adversely, and we will assure you that a similar situation will not happen in the future.

The SWGEmu Team.
Thanks for the quick statement and result, i do believe you guys are doing what you think is best for the game and the community. I would have keep playing, whatever was decided, so i'm fine either way.

Keep up the great job you are doing, and many thanks for the hard work accomplished till now
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Old 04-27-2010, 04:14 PM
dizmull dizmull is offline
 
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Why not just buy them for RL money, use Google FFS.
trying to stick to the rules killed 15 smc cw two nights ago and the best thing i looted was a comp helmet with 33% of rest on it lol
  #244  
Old 04-27-2010, 04:15 PM
Triko Triko is offline
 
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This entire thread is retarded.
  #245  
Old 04-27-2010, 04:15 PM
Tmoney909 Tmoney909 is offline
 
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way to make a fast decision. i didn't really care either way it went. i just like how it didnt take you guys 3 weeks to decide while everyone sat around and didnt want to play.
All in all i like the decision. thank you
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Old 04-27-2010, 04:16 PM
Joshino Joshino is offline
 
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Originally Posted by quadkidd02 View Post
Now pay close attention to the numbers of the poll results...

No, and I won't play if you wipe till OR - Before:162/After:161 = -1
No, but I'll still play with the Blue Frogs - Before:207/After:206 = -1
No, but I'll still play regardless - Before:290/After:310 = +20
Yes - Before:453/After:452 = -1
Yes, but with Blue Frogs(See limitations) - Before:882/After:884 = +2

Hmm...the only way you can "lose" votes in vBulletin (for those who don't know, that's the bulletin board/forum software SWGEmu uses. check the copyright line at the bottom of the page) is for an admin to "modify" the poll.

I know this for a complete and un-biased fact. I have before and continue to run my own web server which hosts vBulletin, PhpBB, and other forum software.

The poll was tampered with, I know this for a fact. You can't change your vote on your own. That is beyond the user's "privileges."

"So if you don't know, now you know."
dayum.
  #247  
Old 04-27-2010, 04:16 PM
Ekowraith Ekowraith is offline
 
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Originally Posted by Lamune View Post
Kay.... so... hypothetically... if one *was* going to tamper with the results in "No's" favor with the sudden flood of votes... why the hell would they stage the final outcome to results that they'd still lose with?
The staff changed the poll just enough to give the true majority 65% of the pre-rounding whole-number vote percentages, rather than 66% of the vote.

Last edited by Ekowraith; 04-27-2010 at 04:18 PM.
  #248  
Old 04-27-2010, 04:18 PM
Odyssey Starchaser Odyssey Starchaser is offline
 
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Originally Posted by MarlonB View Post
At least show us all how to dupe then .. so we are on even playing field
QFE! Can someone dupe me a holo.

Wipe or No Im still playin.

The day one Drops for me will be the day befor they wipe....
Just my luck.
  #249  
Old 04-27-2010, 04:19 PM
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There is another...
says the all knowing user who joined this month.
  #250  
Old 04-27-2010, 04:19 PM
Inpu Inpu is offline
 
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you pussied out. shame on you.

TC means TC. Wipe this b*tch.
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These forums appear to be mostly a cesspit of people complaining about stuff they are getting for free. Fcuk em.
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Old 04-27-2010, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Ekowraith View Post
The staff changed the poll just enough to give the true majority 65% of the pre-rounding whole-number vote percentages, rather than 66% of the vote.
66.95% before poll "closed," 66.36% after poll "closed."

It was > 66% before and after the poll "closed."
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  #252  
Old 04-27-2010, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Ekowraith View Post
The staff changed the poll just enough to give the true majority 65% of the pre-rounding whole-number vote percentages, rather than 66% of the vote.
and thats just what i caught at the tail end. the numbers were going in ways that really isn't possible most of the day which is why i started watching it at the end. it would get 200 votes and remain steady, then 30 and the percentage would change dramaticaly..so bulks of votes at a time were obviously used more than once.
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Old 04-27-2010, 04:20 PM
Lamune Lamune is offline
 
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Originally Posted by Ekowraith View Post
The staff changed the poll just enough to give the true majority 65% of the vote, rather than 66% of the vote.
You mean 66% of the vote, instead of 67%. The results never fell below the 'threshhold' everyone was pushing for, even after the alleged and still otherwise completely pointless 'tampering.'

(Amusingly, did anyone else notice all the people voting 'no' insisting it was unfair to end the poll suddenly and how it had to run the full time, but were completely ready to close the thing as a "victory" the second the results dropped below 66%- thus closing off any additional votes? )

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lazerbrick View Post
I think this sums up the staff....
Innocent victims of a conspiracy theory thought up by those who are confused by numbers?

Last edited by Lamune; 04-27-2010 at 04:22 PM.
  #254  
Old 04-27-2010, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Ekowraith View Post
The staff changed the poll just enough to give the true majority 65% of the pre-rounding whole-number vote percentages, rather than 66% of the vote.
Tbh this thread is gonna be ninja deleted or the posts are gonna be removed or they'll make an excuse imo.

Also everyone is gonna get mega infractions.
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Old 04-27-2010, 04:21 PM
chajomi chajomi is offline
 
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The bottom line is it doesn't help them roll out a finished version any sooner. It would have made things more enjoyable for a lot of people who are playing right now, but the test center isn't built for playing. If the devs think the right thing is to not spend their time with a wipe then thats what is best.
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