TC:Nova Wipe 10/14/2010

[cRush]

It's either,
A) The server hasn't been down long enough yet for the status to update (30 seconds is default, but TA might have it set to more)
B) Those scripts suck.

[Supa]

Originally Posted by Lobreeze

Thats what I thought. Why are people still talking about deadlocks then?

Because they're misinformed. :P

[Lobreeze]

Originally Posted by Vlada

These...




Dont show the correct NOVA status during deadlocks, does it have anything to do with OR code? No.

Well seeing as how deadlocks are directly related to the code, I don't see how what you said even makes sense. How can a deadlock possibly not have anything to do with the OR code.

[Vlada]

Originally Posted by Lobreeze

Well seeing as how deadlocks are directly related to the code, I don't see how what you said even makes sense.

Seeing how i only used deadlock as an example it doesn't have to make sense. Its just one of the cases rhere those "things" show incorrect server status.

Originally Posted by Lobreeze

How can a deadlock possibly not have anything to do with the OR code.

Hmmm....

Originally Posted by cRush

There hasn't been a single OR deadlock to my knowledge.

See, deadlocks not related to the OR code.

[TNYankee626]

IS anyone having problems with the launchpad I try to log in, I get it where it starts loading me in and then it crashes to desktop, Ive uninstalled and reinstalled and no change....

[Vlada]

Originally Posted by TNYankee626

IS anyone having problems with the launchpad I try to log in, I get it where it starts loading me in and then it crashes to desktop, Ive uninstalled and reinstalled and no change....

For support go to to IRC #swgemusupport channel or maybe Support section here on forums.

[Lobreeze]

So, if deadlocks can't happen with the OR code, why on earth would you equate server status not updating to a deadlock?

And since when did examples stop having to makes sense? Isn't that the whole point? To make sense?

That will only going to cause confusion especially coming from someone with the title "SWGemu support helper"

[Vlada]

Originally Posted by Lobreeze

So, if deadlocks can't happen with the OR code, why on earth would you equate server status not updating to a deadlock

Not server status, that "thing"



that shows server status. And deadlock is one of the things that causes it to show incorrect server status. Server status and what causes server status changes is one thing, thing that shows server status is a completely different thing.

Originally Posted by Lobreeze

And since when did examples stop having to makes sense? Isn't that the whole point? To make sense?

Because it was not directly related to the OR code or server status but to the "thing" that shows server status. For one it doesn't make sense and doesn't need to make sense because i wasn't talking about them, for other it makes perfect sense because it explains that the "thing" showing the server status can in some cases show incorrect server status, one of them being a deadlock.

Originally Posted by Lobreeze

That will only going to cause confusion especially coming from someone with the title "SWGemu support helper"

No, not really. It simple shows that if you want correct server status you need to go to IRC #status channel and that LPE, those "things" even www. swgemu.org can sometimes be wrong.

Simple enough for you? I can dumb it down more if necessary.

[Lobreeze]

Originally Posted by Vlada

Not server status, that "thing"



that shows server status. And deadlock is one of the things that causes it to show incorrect server status. Server status and what causes server status changes is one thing, thing that shows server status is a completely different thing.



Because it was not directly related to the OR code or server status but to the "thing" that shows server status. For one it doesn't make sense and doesn't need to make sense because i wasn't talking about them, for other it makes perfect sense because it explains that the "thing" showing the server status can in some cases show incorrect server status, one of them being a deadlock.



No, not really. It simple shows that if you want correct server status you need to go to IRC #status channel and that LPE, those "things" even www. swgemu.org can sometimes be wrong.

Simple enough for you? I can dumb it down more if necessary.

Do you even know what you are saying?

How can that "thing" not update because of a deadlock if deadlocks no longer exist.

Why don't you just say "Server status thing isn't always accurate, use #status in IRC"

By saying that "thing" and swgemu.org

Originally Posted by Vlada

Those cant detect deadlocks.

is just stupid. Now anytime those don't update you're going to get people saying "OMG DEADLOCK" etc. Which is basically just misinformation.

ProTip: Usually when you give an example to a person, you use a situation that is both relevant and correct.

Also, based on your example, that "thing" not updating because

Originally Posted by Vlada

Those cant detect deadlocks.

implies that when they don't update it is from, you guessed it, a deadlock. So by that reasoning, that "thing" not updating due to a deadlock would be DIRECTLY related to the OR code because, you guessed it, its deadlocked.

Simple enough for you? I can dumb it down more if necessary.

[Vlada]

Originally Posted by Lobreeze

Do you even know what you are saying?

blah, blah, blah


blah, blah...

Only person having an issue with this is you.

You don't understand or don't want to understand, it makes no difference anyway. Personally i think your just bored.

Anyway, we dragged this thread off topic enough as it is. Sorry about that Dame.

[Lobreeze]

Good Rebuttal. Glad to know our "Support Helpers" know what they are talking about and give practical examples pertaining to the project.

[Rabidgerbil38]

Wow this is dumb, Vlada just used an example to explain that the server status "things" don't always display the correct information, no need to get your panties in a bunch.

Anyone who can't understand that there are always going to be multiple reasons for a failure are a lost cause in being educated, try as you might a fool will always foil a fool-proof plan. So forget about it and relize the intelligent people on this forum will understand a simple example.

[Lobreeze]

Hi, spreading misinformation always helps, you're right.

Silly me.

[Rabidgerbil38]

Lol your cute, like a pissed off chuahuah

[Lobreeze]

you're cute. What was that you were saying about lost cause to educate?