TC:NOVA Wipe Poll Results

[Kraschman]

Originally Posted by Ekowraith

• That the staff closed the poll and erred on the side of the minority. If it were at all in doubt, why not make the choice that most people favored?

Perhaps because they was doubt that the "most people favoured" figures were any more accurate? If the veracity of the vote is in question, I'd rather they continue with the status quo than go with what may be padded vote numbers.

• That the justifications for closing the poll rewarded the exact bad behavior it claimed to punish. ("No" voters were more likely to have dupe votes because dupers had something to gain by voting no.)

And yes voters would have incentive to dupe votes to make sure the wipe went through.

• That staff very likely changed the poll by adding and removing votes to lessen the severity of their minority-pandering decision.

And you have evidence of this?

[Ekowraith]

Originally Posted by Kraschman

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Perhaps because they was doubt that the "most people favoured" figures were any more accurate? If the veracity of the vote is in question, I'd rather they continue with the status quo than go with what may be padded vote numbers.[/list]

It is reasonable to assume that vote padding occurred on both sides. EVEN IF that 15% of the "yes" vote was padded and 0% of the "no" vote was padded, there was STILL a majority of people in favor of wiping the server! More likely is that the padding occurred equally on both sides, and "yes" votes still DOUBLED "no" votes.

And yes voters would have incentive to dupe votes to make sure the wipe went through.

Which side, do you think, would have a greater portion of its votes derived from duping? The side from which in-game dupers would prosper personally, or the side where they wouldn't? Both "yes" and "no" surely had an equal share of non-dupers who padded the vote. But the "no" side won the votes of people who have an in-game history of duping.

And you have evidence of this?

Yes. Look at the before and after poll-closing screenshots from page 14.

Abstract:

For those "no" voters who argue that the poll is inaccurate: do you think the margin of error is 15% towards the yes side? Even though in-game dupers would clearly vote "no"?

[Budias]

Think about that though. I uderstand that it's free but what kind of moron puts a poll gets people thinking there is going to be a wipe and then say oh nm? Alot of us understand it's free...but don't ask us for our vote and then piss on us.

[Deus In Machina]

Originally Posted by Budias

Think about that though. I uderstand that it's free but what kind of moron puts a poll gets people thinking there is going to be a wipe and then say oh nm? Alot of us understand it's free...but don't ask us for our vote and then piss on us.

The original post is pretty much clear about that point. They started a poll about an eventual wipe, and they did get answers and questions they didn't expect. The result is "forget it, was a mistake, thank you for the feedback". I don't see what's wrong with that.

On a side note, i did vote for a Wipe, though i'm playing around with a Faint character. As I said, I don't care if there is a wipe or not, as long as I know it's going to happen, or not. The server is being wiped? fine, gimme a shout when it's done so i can start over a new char and have a fun fresh beginning. No wipe? Fine, ill just keep playing my actual chars. Whatever it has been decided, i do respect the decision.

[Kainzo]

Thanks Vlada, that ignore feature is a godsend. So many ugly avatars I never have to see again.

[Odyssey Starchaser]

Originally Posted by Kainzo

Thanks Vlada, that ignore feature is a godsend. So many ugly avatars I never have to see again.

Double thanks I was wondering how to do that myself.

[log.iC]

I come with gifts! It's like eChristmas around here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0StE4qllJho 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKOKLwN2czk

[kookaburra]

Originally Posted by log.iC

I come with gifts! It's like eChristmas around here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0StE4qllJho 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKOKLwN2czk

Your post has actually given me A New Hope for the future.

[BlazeHoliday]

Originally Posted by log.iC

I come with gifts! It's like eChristmas around here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0StE4qllJho 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKOKLwN2czk

thx for this!

[Duchess]

The only reason this thread is still going is because people like to post stuff in forums like this. Hey, I won't deny that this isn't entertaining to read all of these posts-- 10 years ago I used to argue in forum threads like this to the point of getting banned, even if I was right. I've learned that it helps nobody to worry too much about someone else's opinion to the point that you become red-faced and sweaty. People will probably continue to post poll results and analyze them and nobody is arguing about the poll results. At least some people try to approach this with humor and not ruin their day because of a game.

[BloodForbes]

attachment is not the jedi way

[Z Ray]

duchess that's because darkfall is terrible

[Duchess]

Originally Posted by Z Ray

duchess that's because darkfall is terrible

So is Coldplay, but I don't tell that to the person who listens to it . <3 Peace.

[Kreen]

I think the moderators are going to find that the drama caused by the 200 people who cried about the server being wiped is gonna be insignificant to the 1000 who are enraged it isn't.

[BloodForbes]

the angry few speak 10 times louder than the many who are content.