Scheduled TC:Nova Wipe & Object Restructure Launch 9/30/10

[dlord]

Originally Posted by Dracaris

The OR is the new code to be tested. As such, there will be wipes. Often and many. These wipes will continue until such time as it is deemed that Pre-CU has been fully (minus some bugs and JTL) achieved, at which point the Test Center will be retired and 1.0 will be launched.

as a noob also, so there isn't a way to save the toons when updating the server with new code?

[Vlada]

Originally Posted by dlord

as a noob also, so there isn't a way to save the toons when updating the server with new code?

No...

The entire database will be wiped:

* All Characters
* All Inventories
* All Auctions/Banks
* All Datapads (includes vehicles/waypoints/etc)
* All Resource Spawns

[dlord]

Originally Posted by Vlada

No...

Mean after the wipe and or is up.

[Vlada]

Originally Posted by dlord

Mean after the wipe and or is up.

For what purpose?

And if its what I'm thinking, its still no.

[Supa]

Originally Posted by Vlada

For what purpose?

And if its what I'm thinking, its still no.

Indeed, defeats the purpose of a full database wipe if people are saving their characters. :X

[dlord]

Originally Posted by Vlada

For what purpose?

And if its what I'm thinking, its still no.

just confused i guess.
When i read that wipes can happen even after the or code goes live.
What would cause another wipe?
If they fix something, can't they just update the files on the server and the client with out a wipe?
like fix a bug with a profession

[Vlada]

Originally Posted by dlord

just confused i guess.
When i read that wipes can happen even after the or code goes live.
What would cause another wipe?
If they fix something, can't they just update the files on the server and the client with out a wipe?
like fix a bug with a profession

Yea, no point in keeping anything. With blue frogs you can recreate your toon in less than 2 minutes.

After they remove them, wipes probably wont be as frequent.

[murdered]

Originally Posted by dlord

just confused i guess.
When i read that wipes can happen even after the or code goes live.
What would cause another wipe?
If they fix something, can't they just update the files on the server and the client with out a wipe?
like fix a bug with a profession

Look at it this way, When the Devs make a new code fix it usually involves data that one or more characters use.

Example 1: New code made to "fix" the way a character's HAM is calculated and there are 1,000 toons on the server, and this new code would need to be applied as a patch, it is easier and faster to wipe the character database rather than patch all 1,000 characters. One file is made rather than making 1,000 individual patches to each character file.

Example 2: Same can be said of resources. IF a certain resource does not work as intended and 500 people have that resource rather than patching the ground code were that resource is and all the characters holding it, 1 patch file is inserted after a wipe.

Its always harder and more time consuming to patch all the characters in the database rather than wiping it.

Hope this helps.

[Supa]

Originally Posted by dlord

as a noob also, so there isn't a way to save the toons when updating the server with new code?

It's not about saving toons during a code update, it's that it's easier to test things with a fresh database, toons, resources and spawns included. :P

[raidoner]

Originally Posted by Supa

It's not about saving toons during a code update, it's that it's easier to test things with a fresh database, toons, resources and spawns included. :P

They said blue frogs will be added in the beginning so you will have a chance to recreate your toons skill tree, which to me sounds awesome! We are being given a chance to recreate or start over.

People we are the lucky ones here that are helping to test out a game that is literally rewriting and creating MMORPG history!
Trust me I know, I am a gaming development student at Devry and I wrote a thesis on Emulators and it's development that got me a A+.

[Supa]

Originally Posted by raidoner

They said blue frogs will be added in the beginning so you will have a chance to recreate your toons skill tree, which to me sounds awesome! We are being given a chance to recreate or start over.

But you won't get blue frogs when initial testing is done. Eventually, they'll have everything that was in Nova back in place, and you'll have to regrind everything again without the assistance of blue frogs. :P