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I would make the assumption that minor voting infractions were made by both yes and no voters but not enough to alter the outcome. The problem is that votes were actually TAKEN AWAY from one category and added to another. The only person(s) with the ability to make a negative vote would be a board moderator. Last edited by kookaburra; 04-27-2010 at 06:56 PM. |
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The poll was legitimate, but the staff opted to please a whining, 1/3rd minority. Their aloof response to the community's outrage only strengthens worries that the staff just doesn't give a damn about its constituents. Last edited by Ekowraith; 04-27-2010 at 07:02 PM. |
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In the absence of firm evidence one way or the other, chuck the vote and go with the status quo until you can get solid numbers. |
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Wipe or no wipe, the emu is making progress so i really dont care
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In order for the poll to have been illegitimate, then there must have been enough account duping that "yes" wouldn't have been a majority. And in order for that to be true, that would have to mean that margin of difference - that 15% of the "yes" votes - were all fraudulent, and none of the "no" votes were fraudulent. If it were any less than 15% yes-biased fraudulent votes, then the "yes" side would STILL be a majority. It is totally baseless to suggest that 15% of the vote was illegitimate yes votes, and 0% of the vote was illegitimate no votes. Padding happened on both sides, and not nearly enough to influence the outcome. Read that slowly. I don't want to explain it again. |
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We have no evidence whatsoever what percentage of yes votes or no votes out of the total were duped. Could be a small percentage, could be much closer to 100%. We have no solid numbers, except for probable fraud on one or both sides. Unless you have solid evidence as to the veracity of any of the numbers, not just the last few minutes of the vote, then the vote is suspect in its entirety. Chuck it until you get solid numbers, simple. Your continued harping on the 15% seems to imply that you assume the rest of the votes were legit. Of that we have no proof. |
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The sudden no vote happened in a time span of hours when an irregular number of new accounts where created. The people who have the most to lose, dupers, have the most to gain if the "no" vote wins. Dupers already by their very nature are in the habit of using methods against the rules to achieve something they want. As some testers pointed out the fact that there happened to be an extremely high statistical trend in no votes and an unusually high number of new accounts, Moderator Staff ,Insultingly, declared that that was a physical impossibility. Then fueling an army of trolls, the staff member led the forums to publicly mock those that cited basic evidence to a relevant problem. Not long after, other staff members deleted posts made by those citing such evidence. However, the off-topic posts, mocking those that had only wished to maintain the votes credibility remained on the thread. Hours later the thread is locked, and later the decision made to negate the poll, based on community solidarity and credibility. Now as i said before, as raging as I am at everything thats happening, the only thing i blame staff for is simply not being honest with the community, and not letting us know sooner that the problems that let to consideration of a wipe were not addressed. Pretending a problem doesn't exist simply because You cannot fix it does more damage. And sometimes the most responsible thing anyone can do is ask for help. There are a large number of qualified persons on the TC who enjoy this project so much that they would have volunteered to work for the staff to police these problems. All staff had to do was ask. And even as angry or kneejerk as the community seems at this point, I bet if you asked, You would get the help from people with the time and knowhow to act while allowing the current team to worry about the OR.
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Best post of this thread.
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