[Re-Revised] TC:NOVA Wipe Proposal

[MarlonB]

Originally Posted by hraka

In my opinion, the purpose of the wipe is to test the stability and effectiveness of the items listed in the original post. Once these new items are implemented and hashed out, that is one less set of items that must be perfected prior to live release. Waiting until OR means likely longer testing and possibly further conceptualization AFTER OR. Implementing the wipe and the changes now is progress to a live server.

That's not the reason though ... it's to fix the corrupted economy created by cheaters. The wipe will bring nothing new ...

[hraka]

Originally Posted by MarlonB

That's not the reason though ... it's to fix the corrupted economy created by cheaters. The wipe will bring nothing new ...

That is exactly the reason: Fixes to dupes and new jedi system are certainly new things that need to be tested for their effectiveness and stability on overall gameplay.

[MarlonB]

Originally Posted by hraka

That is exactly the reason: Fixes to dupes and new jedi system are certainly new things that need to be tested for their effectiveness and stability on overall gameplay.

Both are not relevant to the OR? Different code, different jedi unlock afaik.

The reason they keep this poll is not because a wipe is necessary, but because people are asking for it ... huge difference.

My feelings are not based on any inside knowledge though

[hraka]

Originally Posted by MarlonB

Both are not relevant to the OR? Different code, different jedi unlock afaik.

The reason they keep this poll is not because a wipe is necessary, but because people are asking for it ... huge difference.

My feelings are not based on any inside knowledge though

But the concept of the new unlock system can certainly be tested now. I am not positive but based on prior posts ( I think by Kyle) that the devs are not happy with the current system and are looking for a concept that gets them whatever balance they deem the sweet spot. Conceptually that can be tested now and is not tied to the OR. I voted for wipe because I am for anything that gets us to live faster. If in fact this all because of people whining about gameplay on a test server I am not in favor of wipe. I do however have faith in the developers of EMU that that is not the case and that this is a move that can be made now instead of later for conceptual testing purposes.

[vieppedfire]

Every weapon has a serial number so do item credits do not but for vet players makeing credits is very easy. This wipe is being preposed because of exploited weapons and items ie a pawn issue not a game issue. Again I see no reason for it. Why not ban those items instead of makeing everyone else start over. dont wipe them but if you get caught useing them a ban the player.

[badboy09]

Originally Posted by vieppedfire

Every weapon has a serial number so do item credits do not but for vet players makeing credits is very easy. This wipe is being preposed because of exploited weapons and items ie a pawn issue not a game issue. Again I see no reason for it. Why not ban those items instead of makeing everyone else start over. dont wipe them but if you get caught useing them a ban the player.

this is gonna take a long time to find all of the duped weapons and delete them and i do not think it would be possible. but if you read the first post you would know that they will only do a full wipe!

[vieppedfire]

I didnt say delete them I simply said ban a player for useing them

[badboy09]

Originally Posted by vieppedfire

i didnt say delete them i simply said ban a player for useing them

and how much time should the devs invest in this?

[Dheco]

Originally Posted by vieppedfire

I didnt say delete them I simply said ban a player for useing them

They cant keep track of every item in the game and who uses them, most duped/exploited items/credits have been traded or passed to innocent parties, do you suggest banning them too?

[Brilliance]

Originally Posted by vieppedfire

I didnt say delete them I simply said ban a player for useing them

They still have to be identified and tracked. You can't just ban a guy for using a duped weapon since he might have bought it innocently, possibly several links removed from the person who actually duped it. Unless of course duped weapons already have a huge, ingame graphic tag saying DUPED across them.

[MarlonB]

Originally Posted by badboy09

thas gonna take a long time to find all of the duped weapons and delete them and i do not think it would be possible.

Actually, it's a table in the database ... 1 delete statement would do it.
However, it will not fix credits and items bought by duped money.

Only a full inventory-credit wipe can fix this.


Heh .... the trade forums almost came to a full stop thanks to this poll

[Dheco]

Originally Posted by vieppedfire

Every weapon has a serial number so do item credits do not but for vet players makeing credits is very easy. This wipe is being preposed because of exploited weapons and items ie a pawn issue not a game issue. Again I see no reason for it. Why not ban those items instead of makeing everyone else start over. dont wipe them but if you get caught useing them a ban the player.

You need to read up on this issues a lot more.

[Kainzo]

It seems a bit unfair to revise the poll about the wipe and update information after 300+ people already voted. It seemed like the poll was instituted quickly instead of being thought out first.

Also, can we have a third option, "Don't care OR whatever the devs want"