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odwill 04-25-2010 10:14 PM

[Re-Revised] TC:NOVA Wipe Proposal
Due to changes and strong response to this thread, we are going to be posting a new poll and much more descriptive thread today.

Philip 04-25-2010 11:49 PM

Wipe the items, not the characters...

or if it isn't for a OR implementation or LIVE then delete this thread.

It's a test center for a reason, learn from your mistakes and wait until OR is done until you wipe this.

Only logical answer.

CrackPipe2011 04-25-2010 11:49 PM

yes but put back in gungan if the OR is coming soon.

Tygaar 04-25-2010 11:52 PM

I vote yes to the wipe. I dont like wipes but this is a test server and thus expected. Also if this is needed to help the project in the long run then it is what has to be done.

VexFallstar 04-26-2010 12:00 AM

Wipe it all.

Grinding tailor again is gonna be a pain, but it's a test server. Anyone who gets butthurt about this needs to understand the reality that this will happen.

Barber 04-26-2010 12:02 AM

Unless i can play CH no thanks

Kainzo 04-26-2010 12:03 AM

I vote not to wipe it.

I want the OR more than anything, but wiping it now seems like a loss of some playerbase or at least until the OR.

zope 04-26-2010 12:03 AM

I vote for an inventory wipe as well, unless the dev team needs a full wipe. If that's the case do what you need to do :)

SirJMon 04-26-2010 12:03 AM

Tell us the other bad news that you're leaving out? You might be adding some things but you're also gonna take out some others.

I would love a wipe if it was for the OR. If it's a wipe just to please like 20 trolls on the forums then NO!

hodnick 04-26-2010 12:04 AM

Just wipe the cash/inventory... making everyone have to relevel, or at least myself..ugh

If the OR happens, then a full wipe would be understandable.

club4542001 04-26-2010 12:05 AM

i would say take all the items/resources/money leave us our characters so we don't have to spend all that time on them again. but like some have said if it needs to be done to help progress then i'm all for it. if it does get done can we have the frog for the first week though =-)

theksorlana 04-26-2010 12:05 AM

I agree with Tygaar and Vex its true it is a test server and who cares if a few immature burt hurt 12 year olds get mad it will make the game better and more efficient in the long run and overall scheme of things because it will give us an opportunity to test out the new stuff for the OR so everything isnt bugged when the OR comes out

Slayer45 04-26-2010 12:05 AM

By all means I vote yes on a full wipe especially if it gets rid of the hacks and improves the economy. Also if it will help the OR by pre testing parts of it I am in 100% agreement. As much as I hate wipes and as much time as I have put into it it will improve the game so I say go for it.

Kainzo 04-26-2010 12:06 AM

I'm also voting for an Inventory or credit wipe - it doesn't seem like any point in wiping characters, imo.

The damage was dealt to the inventory / credit system, not really the skills... except those who duped holocrons to get jedi.

Lucious 04-26-2010 12:06 AM

Why not just wipe the credits??? Why wipe the professions and items? Not like everyone has a 2k blaster or whatever. Assuming the credit duping is done and over with, what would save the "economy" would be getting rid of all the credits not the items and professions. Sad to say but if all is wiped without OR coming out I will leave and won't return..
Just my 2 cents

tehmulletman 04-26-2010 12:06 AM

wipety wipe wipe WIPE! i vote yes

it should fix alot of loot problems and economy problems and the pre-testing of OR features sounds very nice

AlmightyGrain 04-26-2010 12:06 AM

Wiping it now would be a great Idea, it would allow everyone to play it again, and some more features would be nice. Plus a wipe is inevitable, no point in puting it off when more testing may be done after a wipe.

skudster13 04-26-2010 12:06 AM

As much as a wipe means starting over, it will be easier on the devs and in the long run may help us find more glitches in the game. If we want the server to be as good as it can be, we need to help the devs to help us. Bittersweetly, I say "YES"

roocey 04-26-2010 12:07 AM

Seems like a bad idea to wipe before OR. Does it serve any real purpose?

To me, it seems like we are just kind of chilling on Nova for a (temporary) experience of SWG until the OR comes out.

This is a test center. Fact, sure enough. But is anything we are testing right now going to matter in the long run?

It is my understanding that the OR is going to rebuild the code from the ground up, so really, what good would a wipe do? Let everyone start over so we just start over again later for the real testing?

I don't care either way. Its just how I see it. I fully anticipate and embrace future wipes, I just don't think wiping Nova before the OR is a great idea. Please enlighten me if I am mistaken and the testing we are doing right now actually serves any true value to the development process at this time.

seanlikesSubaru 04-26-2010 12:07 AM

Wipe please. Everything.

And It'd be cool if we could get the Gungan, since exp has been tested. And since grinding up new characters will be a waste of time.

Even better, a better Gungan, with Kickass Recources instead of items.


Wipe only Credits&items, not characters.

opasrat 04-26-2010 12:08 AM

also for an inventory wipe

Process 04-26-2010 12:08 AM

Wipe everything.. but leave characters.. take away money/items/etc

setadoon 04-26-2010 12:09 AM

I vote for a wipe. Lets help test some new content for the OR. Your going to get wiped soon anyway, why not help test some things so that when OR does come maybe it will be a more stable game.

NEW CONTENT!! your not tired of hitting NS's 8hrs a day yet because there is nothing else to do??

Get some of the bugs/glitches caught and out of the way.

Whats a few more months of holding on to what u have gonna do anyway? In the end its all going to be gone anyway you need to understand that.

kaque 04-26-2010 12:09 AM

If you put houses and factories in then I vote yes, otherwise NO!

Zetch 04-26-2010 12:09 AM

Since it would seem to benefit everybody as a whole maybe not immediately, but in the long run, I voted for yes.

CrackPipe2011 04-26-2010 12:09 AM

gungans pl0x

Jedson 04-26-2010 12:10 AM

I am like one rumor away from getting strong..... i would hate to see all this time spent and so close for a full wipe.... unless you just let anyone play jedi for a while... in that case i fully support it. my reasons for no wipe are purely selfish, because i am close to finally unlocking a force sensitive.....

capt_obvious 04-26-2010 12:10 AM

Do what you need to do, the only class that I can see of that's actually that hard to grind out is jedi and they should know better than anyone that yes this is a Test Server and wipes should be expected.

Twiz 04-26-2010 12:10 AM

i vote no. whats gonna stop ppl from hacking/exploiting/duping after this wipe?

Killerfang 04-26-2010 12:10 AM

I think if the wipe will help the economy and get rid of the hacks then go for it.I know this is a test server and wipes will happen I don't mind starting over if it's for the good of the game and community.

Holydragon34 04-26-2010 12:11 AM

I voted yes let me login !!!

mikeelle 04-26-2010 12:11 AM


Lamune 04-26-2010 12:11 AM

Have any players responsibility for the damage been identified and dealt with?
Sony was able to track back offenders multiple transactions deep, though logging may not be as complete in the Emu at this point.

Actually, I guess there is no way to deal with problem players, since IP bans are next to worthless.
A few ****heads destroy an entire server, and what's the worst that can happen? Their characters are 'deleted' while everyone else gets erased anyway?


Originally Posted by Philip (Post 587727)
Wipe the items, not the characters


*Unless of course this is unpossible. I've no idea the complexity of the character data. If a few tables can be null'd in the database to wipe all items and credits while retaining characters, so be it. We've been told repeatedly this is "dead code." You gain ****-nothing worth testing having everyone re-grind classes.

mcwilly10 04-26-2010 12:11 AM

no code changes so i dont see any reason for a wipe other than to apease those who are not at the top of the chain ie cant learn how to farm loot,credits or unlock jedi.if you really had something to offer such as the OR and after the wipe we could really begin to dig into the game and it would actually matter just wiping to reset seems a mute point.I wonder how many people will then say it was fun but ill wait until its live before i waste my time? i wont its been fun but some people really might wonder if we wipe cause people whine are you guys any better than the nge who screwed the game for the same perpose.

So i vote no,unless you can implement charc limits to prevent those exploits aswell

monkeypye 04-26-2010 12:11 AM

I voted and cant log in
does this mean I get to vote again :)

Automan 04-26-2010 12:11 AM

the trolls win again it seems...very unfortunate

DangerMouse 04-26-2010 12:11 AM

I vote YES. Clear it all grinding a toon is not that hard. and allows more testing. Plus would love too have a taste of some new stuff for the OR.

Arcticus 04-26-2010 12:12 AM

So I already voted and yet I cannot log in...

FgNFin 04-26-2010 12:12 AM

If wipe means more content added and bug fixes go for it.

SirJMon 04-26-2010 12:12 AM


Originally Posted by skudster13 (Post 587750)
As much as a wipe means starting over, it will be easier on the devs and in the long run may help us find more glitches in the game. If we want the server to be as good as it can be, we need to help the devs to help us. Bittersweetly, I say "YES"

This will not be easier on the dev/staff. Now they will have to deal with the forums being lit up for a month of people complaining about lossing everything. Have fun with that mess. Not too mention the pissing contests in every thread about it. This place is gonna be a complete mess. Oh and the unlocking system... and banks.....ummm, please explain those.

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