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Wilykitt 04-26-2010 07:49 AM

I'm all for the wipe. Economy is worse than post-war Germany, and I sure as hell can't justify 10 million Deutsch Marks for a Vasarian Brandy :p Add to that all these stupidly over powered weapons and the sheer amount of Jedi running around, it's more reminiscent of the NGE than preCU; über weapons replacing skill, redundant PvP system and Jedi gunned down in a barrage of one second speed, 1000 damage carbine/BHs.
Besides, killing all my toons gives me something else to do =)

badboy09 04-26-2010 07:49 AM

yes to many people are only here a couple of months and think this is the final release. we have all had our fix of grinding bring back blue frogs to keep us entertained untill theres something to actually test again!

badboy09 04-26-2010 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qwwq4 (Post 588478)
a 6-month wipe would completely destroy everything I've put into SWGEMU. All that time griding and leveling up would be wasted.

I know housing is working on the ORB, so unless we get it after the wipe, my vote is no.

thats where you are wrong you have tested the current code all be it prob just playing and no submissions of bugs, also if blue frogs where added you could instant lvl to what you want or grind again its up to you.

so your time has has only been wasted in making that post.

Wilykitt 04-26-2010 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metal (Post 588477)
You got some brains at right place, while majority of people think it's a real server :|

Haha, aye, and some people forget it's just a game. If this wipe brings us even just 0.001% closer to a finished, workable server than I support it.
Besides, if you don't like grinding up, why are you playing? Grinding IS a large part of SWG.

Dngrzne91 04-26-2010 07:54 AM

Wipe it and add blue frogs and watch us be right back here in less than 2 months. There are three big bugs in game right now that aren't on that list of fixes. If they aren't fixed a wipe isn't gonna solve a damn thing. The uber weapons/dots will be back in a matter of no time.

GotGamble 04-26-2010 07:56 AM

There is one thing that would be nice to hear is a date for the decision to wipe or not. Early results aside, I imagine we will quickly be past the point where the majority of the active community have had a chance to think about this and make a decision. I think it would be in everyone's best interests to make the decision soon, and get past this point asap.

salem 04-26-2010 07:56 AM

Well since the wipe is an inevitable choice, i think it should planted the blue frog again, if not for the items then just for the skills. it will be hell if you start your crafting pro that took month for grind

qwwq4 04-26-2010 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badboy09 (Post 588483)
thats where you are wrong you have tested the current code all be it prob just playing and no submissions of bugs, also if blue frogs where added you could instant lvl to what you want or grind again its up to you.

so your time has has only been wasted in making that post.

no one said anything about adding blue frogs. you don't even know thats going to happen again.

and FYI, i've tried on multiple occasions to add bugs, but it says my acct is locked out and it wont let me.(on swgemu.com/bugs)

Raven118 04-26-2010 07:58 AM

yes wipe the hell outa those rebel jedi >_<

badboy09 04-26-2010 07:58 AM

What I would do if blue frogs came back for a time.

1.make armoursmith/tailor/artisan, collect resources and try to make the best crafted armor, make speeders for everyone, run around theed making costumes for random people.

2. roll a FOTM toon and join a large pvp group.

3.do some NPC camping.

4. practise my grinding stratagy for when the game goes live.

5. have fun

EDIT; did i say join in the epicness of PVP battles.

madmurdoch2000 04-26-2010 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dngrzne91 (Post 588486)
Wipe it and add blue frogs and watch us be right back here in less than 2 months. There are three big bugs in game right now that aren't on that list of fixes. If they aren't fixed a wipe isn't gonna solve a damn thing. The uber weapons/dots will be back in a matter of no time.

so wot if they don't fix the bugs your thinking of? the bugs your thinking of maybe be fixable without wiping the server or the fixes maybe in the OR already. if this fixes any bugs that can only be a good thing.
as for uber weapons and dots they may be part of the fix because they do have on the list that they are doing something to dropped weapons vs crafted ones.

Dheco 04-26-2010 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salem (Post 588491)
Well since the wipe is an inevitable choice, i think it should planted the blue frog again, if not for the items then just for the skills. it will be hell if you start your crafting pro that took month for grind

You would be grinding while waiting for resources, or would you rather get master in a day and wait doing nothing?

Qui-Larek 04-26-2010 08:01 AM

Gents can we cease with the posting of 100 pics of blue frogs as well as the discussion about blue frogs, both of which are cluttering up the thread.

Metal 04-26-2010 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilykitt (Post 588484)
Haha, aye, and some people forget it's just a game. If this wipe brings us even just 0.001% closer to a finished, workable server than I support it.
Besides, if you don't like grinding up, why are you playing? Grinding IS a large part of SWG.

It seems you mixed up me with some one else. I never said i dont like to grind. I like to explore and kill mobs underway ;) and i have no problems what so ever becouse of the wipe.

Valdosemu 04-26-2010 08:05 AM

Wipe = Yes
Blue Frog = No

badboy09 04-26-2010 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valdosemu (Post 588504)
Wipe = Yes
Blue Frog = No

please explaine why.

Raven118 04-26-2010 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valdosemu (Post 588504)
Wipe = Yes
Blue Frog = No

shush u joined 3 months ago :o

Elvaron 04-26-2010 08:07 AM

The only real thing for development to get out of this is testing whether the exploit fixes are working. Anything else is up to you guys and has little to nothing to do with development. The OR is on it's way but it'll take a lot of time, so you need to decide how you want to play until then. With a wipe to get rid off the results of exploits or without.

Mahonra 04-26-2010 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qui-Larek (Post 588501)
Gents can we cease with the posting of 100 pics of blue frogs as well as the discussion about blue frogs, both of which are cluttering up the thread.

Ok on the pics. Totally understand.

But why cease discussing the pros and cons of adding BLUE FROGS?

badboy09 04-26-2010 08:09 AM

can i keep it in my SIG?

Bredon_Kin'dragon 04-26-2010 08:10 AM

I say wipe it.

Just when ya do, make sure you fix the intentional known/possible dupes, as well as some generaly odd bugs, like toons who load up with someone else's clothing on, from a different account. Only to watch it disapear the next restart, or consumables which seem to bounce back to characters who traded it away, once again after a restart. Or how about tiny little creatures. (I tend to find that amusing though)

Fixing things seem odd because the Devs have stated over and over again this code wont be overhauled and fixed because its basically dead code, especially with the OR on its way.

BUT - Please do wipe this WITH fixes, and itll be worth it.

As for people crying about paying for training or it being hard to grind up ANY combat toon... COME ON. Only the crafters have a legitimate ***** with having to wait for resource spawns, but hey we dealt with SOE, and they didnt even give us a chance to vote on it.

Kudo's to the guys running this, its fun as hell, but please clean it up a bit when ya wipe.

-B

Qui-Larek 04-26-2010 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mahonra (Post 588511)
Ok on the pics. Totally understand.

But why cease discussing the pros and cons of adding BLUE FROGS?

Because that is not the topic of discussion right now.

Arlam 04-26-2010 08:12 AM

Nowwhere does it say in the first post that they would add blue frogs after the wipe. Blue frogs doesn't appear to be up for discussion. Wether to wipe a test server that will have to be wiped again in the near future is the topic.

salem 04-26-2010 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dheco (Post 588500)
You would be grinding while waiting for resources, or would you rather get master in a day and wait doing nothing?

I voted yes and i have jedi char by the way, but if you want to stay grinding for a week or more to make us good armors or weapons be my guest.
oh and about master in a day and wait doing nothing so no point of making master at all.

Mahonra 04-26-2010 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qui-Larek (Post 588515)
Because that is not the topic of discussion right now.


I think it is very relevant to discuss pros and cons of adding BLUE FROGS if there is a wipe. I know I'm not the only one.

Kaleigh 04-26-2010 08:16 AM

I propose that Mahonra be banned from the forums for 1 day for posting a Ke$ha video! :D

roodypooh 04-26-2010 08:18 AM

if they are going to "revise" the unlock system wouldn't it be wise....for future OR testing.... to put in the original holo system if that is whats going to be used in vanilla unless its the village system which would entail god knows how many npc missions quests etc etc... rather than goin with something like the current system which won't even be in live?

Just wondering cause if you hammer out say the old hologrind system or makeshift village missions for now wouldn't that go along way towards finishing one aspect of the old game instead of putting something totally different into the works?

Sure everyone might know the old systems well but doing either the hologrind or makeshift village system would be something building towards the endcoding rather than having to totally rewrite the unlock code every few wipes to keep people guessing....sure its fun to figure out each new system but if its going to prolong the end result i'd say keep it as is or go back to what it originally was.

Vlada 04-26-2010 08:23 AM

One of the stupidest things STAFF can do right now is to bringing Blue Frogs back, other would be removing Jedi completely.

And two are linked together. One you put Frogs back in the whole Jedi system stops working since profession grind is removed form the equation, economy ceases to exist because of frog equipment, and community goes bye, buy.

Blue frogs = Everyone is a Jedi, which no one will allow to happen, or Blue Frog = Jedi removed, which means only 100 instance logged on NOVA instead of +1k (like we had last summer).

So lets just drop this idiocy and get back on topic.

Freedon 04-26-2010 08:23 AM

From the sounds of it a wipe will allow the tester to fix a few bugs that can't be fixed because of toons currently in game and potential inventory stuff.

It is a test server. Things can only get better post-wipe. Long as it's being done to make the project go forward, game on.

badboy09 04-26-2010 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vlada (Post 588529)
One of the stupidest things STAFF can do right now is to bringing Blue Frogs back, other would be removing Jedi completely.

And two are linked together. One you put Frogs back in the whole Jedi system stops working since profession grind is removed form the equation, economy ceases to exist because of frog equipment, and community goes bye, buy.

Blue frogs = Everyone is a Jedi, which no one will allow to happen, or Blue Frog = Jedi removed, which means only 100 instance logged on NOVA instead of +1k (like we had last summer).

So lets just drop this idiocy and get back on topic.


im sure the staff said there would be a different unlock system, so it does not matter.

Dheco 04-26-2010 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salem (Post 588519)
I voted yes and i have jedi char by the way, but if you want to stay grinding for a week or more to make us good armors or weapons be my guest..
oh and about master in a day and wait doing nothing so no point of making master at all.

I think you are forgetting that you can't make anything good until the right resourses spawn, so grinding is the only real think you can do.

Mahonra 04-26-2010 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dheco (Post 588533)
I think you are forgetting that you can't make anything good until the right resourses spawn, so grinding is the only real think you can do.

Do some people actually grind crafting profs for fun? Like do some people really enjoy grinding crafting xp?

darkprincess69 04-26-2010 08:29 AM

Voted

Solitomortis 04-26-2010 08:29 AM

Has it been stated when this Poll will conclude? I thought I heard a week but I quickly skimmed the first few pages and missed any dates.

deadcold 04-26-2010 08:31 AM

Do some people actually grind crafting profs for fun? Like do some people really enjoy grinding crafting xp?


in live i ground out AS WS DE master artisan on my main toon for fun then dropped them for TKM and master ranger bought 2 more accounts and re ground out all the crafting proffs on them

giffo 04-26-2010 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilykitt (Post 588479)
and Jedi gunned down in a barrage of one second speed, 1000 damage carbine/BHs.

on live in the before times, that sadly didn't kill jedi, not all the time anyway

giffo 04-26-2010 08:35 AM

when is this poll going to be completed? when 80% of accounts vote or a few days etc? jw the requirements for completion

MarlonB 04-26-2010 08:38 AM

Inv/credit wipe only .... no reason to drop characters ...

Just gimme a naked dude with a few credits.

ChixDigit 04-26-2010 08:41 AM

Wipe without an upgrade is silly.

MarlonB 04-26-2010 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badboy09 (Post 588549)
your a noob!

I know ... i've only been around for 3 years :)


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