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I'll make one more post I suppose.
My problem isn't with the diversity of the community. Diversity in itself is a wonderful thing. Wipe, don't wipe, blue frogs, no blue frogs. All of these had merit. The reason I'm opting to leave this project behind me for the time being is because very few members of the community were in my opinion, able to express and debate their views on the merits of any of these options. It was all pages and pages of attacks and accusations. Diversity is a wonderful thing because it allows different view points for discussion. If there's no discussion diversity loses so much of its value. True, it is not always the best idea to turn and leave at the onset of trouble. Nor would I in every situation. For SWGemu though, I feel that that's the best choice for me. It's a game, if it's not fun for me then why stay? And lastly, again I wish the developers and indeed the users success and fun with this project. |
Silly humans and your fanatical overreactions (not applicable to all). Rather than complaining, chastising, lecturing (guilty...), and behaving like a bunch of squabbling politicians who found a reason to attack someones reputation, get back in the game and see if there are still undiscovered exploits so that way they can be identified and tested with the OR code, that way history wont have to repeat itself.
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If they had informed us of it, I'm sure there would be alot more reasonable messages on this board. I agree. :) |
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Honestly, why do you guys even have a public relations wing at this point. It's obvious that no matter what decision you guys make the community will be outraged at you, due to past relations blunders. Setting up something like this in concept, Staff should have known, with all the past QQ from this community, that we could not handle this decision.
i'm tired of hearing from staff "you guys should not bite the hand that feeds". After years and years of the same reaction from the same people, how do you guys expect any different reaction than the one you get every time you do something. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result, you guys might be clinically insane at this point. |
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2.) I have no problem with the decision of the devs to don't do a wipe even if I voted for a wipe. BUT you state SWGEmu is a non-profit, open source community project. Now my problem is if you do a poll (which you don't need to) you HAD TO do whatever the poll result is. Just because of the morale of the community as this community think they are a big part of the project. If you need to do the opposite of the poll result just "modify" the poll result. It will not have that much impact on the community as the actual solution... BTW for all that think the devs do it in their free time and we have no rights do critism just think about what will happen to all the hard work if we always say "Yes, Yes,..." - everytime the community will loose people until no people are there anymore. The devs worked hard but no one left to thank them or honor their work. After that said I still have trust into this project and I am sure the devs will learn a lot from these events. |
I've been playing SWG since release, I'm glad the EMU is around. I don't play to much cuz i know the OR is coming and everything is gona get wiped anyways. BUT, is there any word on how far away the OR REALLY is?
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Bummer!
I have played for a couple months now and can not seem to be able to compete on the trade forums with those that have some many credits. So a wipe was seen as a leveling of the playing field. Oh well. Hopefully the OR wipe will be this summer some time. |
I am confused.
the developers control the code on the forums the developers control the code in the game. the developers posted a vote and set the rules for the vote and what would happen based on the vote. Yet the vote was disregarded partly because of new accounts? if you control the forums cant you control how and who places the votes? Set limits of account age? SOMETHING? I dont care which way the vote went. I am pissed because I was misled by the people I TRUST to bring this game to its fullest potential. Now that this vote and bull**** has happened...I dont trust a word the devs say. I doubt the OR is actually gonna happen at this point. Are they just milking donation money and using it for something else then what they say it is being used for? I cant trust them anymore and will NEVER donate money to this project until it is finished. |
OUTRAGE....i can't believe i pay a monthly subscription fee for this!!
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All these whiners. Just be thankful we even have this game.
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You babies are just crying because you can't use Blue Frogs. Waaaah Waaaah I want free skillz i want jedi waaah.
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I love you all, marry me.
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That is no reason to wipe the database, it's just being mean to the existing community that is waiting for the OR and that wipe, there really is no need for bug reporting at this time. And yes before I get flamed, I know some vets do want a wipe, I do respect their opinions. Yet many that have been here for years probably would not even come back after such a pre-or wipe for a time since we know it will get wiped again, and we are hoping the wipe for the OR is soon. If they did wipe it, it would only mean that the OR release is no time soon, so why spend the time starting over to "even the playing field" (or variation of that comment), we have family and friends, a life, and investing in a beta stage (a lame duck stage actually) to accommodate the newer players is pretty silly; if you really give it some thought. Come on people, restore civility, go with the flow, take a chill pill, a wipe will be around soon enough, and at a point we will all agree it's really needed (e.g for the OR). If you are new, just tough it out, we pretty much all have here at one time or another. |
Umm... I really hope you guys have a better way of managing the database than just forcing a wipe down on everyone. You know, like a rollback or something. Kinda like all other MMOs? ffs, my WoW shard creates DB backups every 6 hours, but I can schedule it to whatever I want.
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"An individual who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust, and who willingly accepts the penalty of imprisonment in order to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the highest respect for the law."
--Martin Luther King, Jr. Unban Spun! /sign |
Well i voted yes for wipe but with frogies no clue where i would have found one but a pet blue frog sounded nice(this is a joke i know its not funny but it made me smile.) Anyway i intend to keep playing as it really doesn't hurt me at all that people have tons of duped stuff, though it would have been nice to restart MeH i am over it. Let the good times roll.
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The devs and us have a symbiotic relationship here, folks.
Notice how the minute a dev posts in this thread, the hate goes down? It’s easy to attack the wizard behind the curtain, a lot harder when he actually says something back. That doesn’t mean the devs weren’t wrong, just that it takes a public face and accountability to calm people down. That’s what PR is. A public face. In the grand scale of the Emu, wiping the TC isn’t really that big of a deal. But it does show us how the relationship between the devs and community works. People will always be pissed when their voice isn’t heard. I voted for a wipe. I stand by that choice. The Emu has never been known for great community relations; maybe this will create a spark that will change that. I hope it does. -Tay P.S. For what it’s worth: Devs, for all your hard work, volunteering, and for donning the flame suits, thank you. And to the community, we are a salty bunch ready to call bull**** at the drop of a hat. If we weren’t this passionate about this damn game it would have dead a long time ago. For that, thank you. |
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I recently decided to make an attempt at the Armorsmith profession since I've always enjoyed crafting. It has been VERY slow going and I gained a new appreciation for those who have made this progression on a test server. I would've been fine without frogs, I just wouldn't start armorsmith again! |
I just hope that we can get past this mess! There are a lot of good people here. While we might not always agree on everything,we are all here for the same thing!
I am disappointed how this all went down but it isn't life changing. I respect everyones opinion's but we really need to calm down.And I think that is beginning to happen. This is a great community and the Team is awesome. I believe this will make us a stronger community in the end. Thankx, AlphaDawg |
suck it up QQ'ers, its TC
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I would just like to say that I've been here since all you could do is run around Anchorhead on this test server. I really appreciate all the hard work that you folks have done to bring us closer to a real pre-cu game. I voted for a wipe also, but it's no big deal. I am truly enjoying just playing and testing on the server. Thank you.
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/recoverFromBeingBlindsided :? Apparently, another symptom of the blue frog virus is saying your going to do one thing and doing another. :) I wrote some funny stuff about the blue frog virus in my previous post. Can we get the poll thread back? :rolleyes: /warning2Devs Stop trippin on bluF. That stuff is dangerous! The hi is just not worth it. :shakehead: /requestCommunityStopFlaming :deadhorse: /thank devs :rock::bow: /startSWGEmu P.S. /?2Devs Did you run out of TP? ;) |
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Perhaps you folks should read more carefully. Since part of the Community tried to manipulate the voting by creating new accounts. The only thing that was possible was to withdraw the poll and to stay on the path as planned.
It the inet so there are a lot of ways to cheat and manipulate things, so from a good community, i would expect people not to make an personal advantage of bugs and errors like credit and item Duping, if there would be not so much egoism it would be much nicer but there is defenitly no way to change mankind. So take it as it is don´t blame them, blame the a**holes that cannot stay with certain standards and who go for every method to get their will. Thx to the team for for taking a hard decision , but i can understand them pretty well. And thx for giving us a great game back. |
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I just dont see how you can compare this with $OE. Im not trying to flame anyone. What happened here isnt even close to what $OE did.
$OE took a game we paid for, loved and scraped it for the NGE! Completely changing the game. I really dont think a wipe or no wipe really changes the game much and on top of that we dont have to pay to play! What happened here was disappointing but crap happens.People make mistakes.Its what we do. Believe it or not,no one is perfect. Not even the EMU Team. Remember the hate we had,(I still have),for $OE?? Can you honestly tell me you have the same hate for the EMU Team over this?? I would have to hate them that much to be able to compare the two! But hey,thats me! Im not even a little mad over this mess,(I voted for the wipe),.It was just a mistake, it isnt the first and it sure as hell wont be the last. Right now Im just thankful I can play/test pre-cu and have confidence the Team will do whats best for this server. I respect their decisions whether I think it to be right or wrong. Thankx, AlphaDawg |
Ya cant tell me everyone involved on the "swg team" who had a say in all of this, read the funny business that went on with the poll in its last minutes before being locked and removed.
I'm at a big 'whatever' when it comes to this game, ya its fun, but when the day ends..... its the devs puppy to kick, and no one elses. speedhacks, rubber banding, and now this, rinse and repeat |
Ebayer's and casual loozers have won, with their crying.
I'm glad i wont be playing on suncrusher, becouse i see what will happen there ;). It may sound harsh, but it is so... |
Wiping a TC shouldn't be such a big deal. Says alot about the current community, the way this is getting blown out of proportion.:|
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Anyone who compare the swgemu team to soe are seriously misguided, what happened here was even on there test center they actually gave us a choice on the future of this server and unfortunately a minority of this community took that choice away from us by exploiting the poll with more votes than they were entitled to.
we will never know the true feelings of the community on this matter because of it and it must of really put a limitation on the future community involvement in development choices. I hope that the people flaming the devs because of a biased poll realise that there was no result down to those few that multi voted and therefore the correct decision was taken. I continue to thank all the developers and community staff for there continued efforts on this project |
Well, on the behalf of myself I'd like to apologize to the swgemu staff for those that are being frankly offensive and damaging to this community's goal. For the sake of making this a better place, please everyone chill out and move on. Whether you think you are owed one or not, the staff has already apologized and tried to make things better for all sides in this issue.
Lets please move forward from this with personal goals of making this community a better place and focus on having fun while trying to improve the emu itself as a whole. |
God after seeing all the **** in this thread I'm making a motion. If the devs see this comment, take note to not listen to anybody except yourselves. Don't let what anybody else says sway your opinion. If someone doesn't like what you, the ultimate dealbreakers, are doing, then they can gtfo. This is not a for profit project so figures don't need to be worried about. Make an agenda, post the agenda, and stick with it. Screw everyone else.
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