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Forum: Community News Archives 04-28-2010, 09:29 PM
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Posted By Ekowraith
I don't think we disagree then. It has been...

I don't think we disagree then. It has been thoroughly demonstrated that the community lacks any real power - even when its opinion is solicited under that pretense, and even when ignoring the...
Forum: Community News Archives 04-28-2010, 06:05 PM
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Posted By Ekowraith
Exactly. Your arguing that this has been...

Exactly. Your arguing that this has been undemocratic is quite possibly the best evidence that this process has been unfair.

But suppose a developer banned you because he disagreed with you...
Forum: Community News Archives 04-28-2010, 05:49 PM
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Posted By Ekowraith
What you're doing is listing "no" points in...

What you're doing is listing "no" points in defense of the decision to ignore the community. Your points have a place: in the dialog and debate that led up to the poll and it's outcome. Despite...
Forum: Community News Archives 04-27-2010, 09:13 PM
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Posted By Ekowraith
With more than one hundred pages of active...

With more than one hundred pages of active discussion on this issue between the two threads makes it abundantly clear that community involvement was high and that an overwhelming majority of the...
Forum: Community News Archives 04-27-2010, 09:02 PM
Replies: 990
Views: 243,574
Posted By Ekowraith
Here's what you're not getting, Kraschman. This...

Here's what you're not getting, Kraschman. This has been explained over and over.

In order for the poll to have been illegitimate, then there must have been enough account duping that "yes"...
Forum: Community News Archives 04-27-2010, 08:28 PM
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Posted By Ekowraith
Guys! We have our first STAFF response to this...

Guys! We have our first STAFF response to this issue, over in the "Nothing's really changed" thread! :)




Thanks, STAFF! We appreciate it. You guys are awfully consistent addressing the most...
Forum: Community News Archives 04-27-2010, 08:25 PM
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Views: 243,574
Posted By Ekowraith
Yes. Like you say, they made a mistake: now let...

Yes. Like you say, they made a mistake: now let them correct their error.
Forum: Community News Archives 04-27-2010, 08:08 PM
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Posted By Ekowraith
Trent, I share in your confusion. Not only was...

Trent, I share in your confusion. Not only was the decision unjust, it seems almost random and senseless. Why did this process occur if only to be dashed away? The staff clearly lacks internal...
Forum: Community News Archives 04-27-2010, 07:59 PM
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Posted By Ekowraith
Bingo. Illegitimate votes were made on both...

Bingo. Illegitimate votes were made on both sides, but they certainly did not constitute 15% of the majority vote.

The poll was legitimate, but the staff opted to please a whining, 1/3rd...
Forum: Community News Archives 04-27-2010, 07:55 PM
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Posted By Ekowraith
That's true, but we were talking about account...

That's true, but we were talking about account duping. He argues that the poll is illegitimate due to the possibility that 16% of "yes" votes and 0% of "no" votes came from duped accounts. How...
Forum: Community News Archives 04-27-2010, 07:52 PM
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Posted By Ekowraith
What possible set of circumstances could lead to...

What possible set of circumstances could lead to 16% of yes votes being fraudulent, and 0% of no votes being fraudulent? Again, this is the only way it could be that the poll wouldn't show that a...
Forum: Community News Archives 04-27-2010, 07:47 PM
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Posted By Ekowraith
Kraschman sez: Let's throw out the vote over the...

Kraschman sez: Let's throw out the vote over the 1 in 100 billion percent chance that the majority wasn't in favor of this wipe.

Kraschman, do you really believe the margin of error was FIFTEEN...
Forum: Community News Archives 04-27-2010, 07:26 PM
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Views: 243,574
Posted By Ekowraith
Nope! A plurality of people voted in favor of...

Nope! A plurality of people voted in favor of blue frogs, so clearly the most logical thing would be to entirely ignore that choice. :rolleyes:
Forum: Community News Archives 04-27-2010, 07:13 PM
Replies: 990
Views: 243,574
Posted By Ekowraith
If the SWGEmu staff really wants to distinguish...

If the SWGEmu staff really wants to distinguish itself from SOE, it will reverse this decision, recognize its mistake, and restore the faith of its constituents.
Forum: Community News Archives 04-27-2010, 07:03 PM
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Views: 243,574
Posted By Ekowraith
It is reasonable to assume that vote padding...

It is reasonable to assume that vote padding occurred on both sides. EVEN IF that 15% of the "yes" vote was padded and 0% of the "no" vote was padded, there was STILL a majority of people in favor...
Forum: Community News Archives 04-27-2010, 06:58 PM
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Views: 243,574
Posted By Ekowraith
Guys: Is this a CU anniversary joke? I'm...

Guys: Is this a CU anniversary joke? I'm beginning to think it might actually be.
Forum: Community News Archives 04-27-2010, 06:50 PM
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Posted By Ekowraith
Potential Staff courses of action: ...

Potential Staff courses of action:


Sensible! ✔ "This poll is clearly divisive and harmful to the community. It shouldn't be allowed to exist. Let's cut it short to end the fighting, and respect...
Forum: Community News Archives 04-27-2010, 06:43 PM
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Views: 243,574
Posted By Ekowraith
That the staff closed the poll and erred on the...

That the staff closed the poll and erred on the side of the minority. If it were at all in doubt, why not make the choice that most people favored?

That the justifications for closing the poll...
Forum: Community News Archives 04-27-2010, 06:30 PM
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Views: 243,574
Posted By Ekowraith
The issue isn't gratitude here. This decision was...

The issue isn't gratitude here. This decision was senseless, aggressively unfair, damaging to the integrity of the community, and rewarding of bad behavior.

To the "don't complain, it's free"...
Forum: Community News Archives 04-27-2010, 05:59 PM
Replies: 990
Views: 243,574
Posted By Ekowraith
Wouldn't the best decision be the one that...

Wouldn't the best decision be the one that pleases the most people? Simply because we cannot come to a consensus does not mean we should defer to the outraged minority.
Forum: Community News Archives 04-27-2010, 05:33 PM
Replies: 990
Views: 243,574
Posted By Ekowraith
Yep. It'd be like holding a referendum: "Should...

Yep. It'd be like holding a referendum: "Should people who threaten others at the ballot box be held accountable for their crimes? Y/N?". The outcome would very likely be illegitimate.

In most...
Forum: Community News Archives 04-27-2010, 05:21 PM
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Views: 243,574
Posted By Ekowraith
Yeah, I understand that. I was only talking about...

Yeah, I understand that. I was only talking about the whole numbers before rounding (an error to which the SWGEmu layman is potentially prone) and offering a potential motive for what was obviously...
Forum: Community News Archives 04-27-2010, 05:16 PM
Replies: 990
Views: 243,574
Posted By Ekowraith
The staff changed the poll just enough to give...

The staff changed the poll just enough to give the true majority 65% of the pre-rounding whole-number vote percentages, rather than 66% of the vote.
Forum: Community News Archives 04-27-2010, 05:07 PM
Replies: 990
Views: 243,574
Posted By Ekowraith
I can't imagine anything more short-sighted than...

I can't imagine anything more short-sighted than deferring to a minority on the basis of outrage. I can guarantee that that, by the margin of the majority's victory, you will experience more outrage.
Forum: Community News Archives 04-27-2010, 04:51 PM
Replies: 990
Views: 243,574
Posted By Ekowraith
Since the fate of the server was precisely what...

Since the fate of the server was precisely what we voted on, why would you err on the side of the minority?

Moral of the story: If a system of decision-making ends up not working in your favor,...
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