[david665]

You really can't put the blame for the way the community is or isn't being built on the community members, if the originators of the community aren't doing anything themselves to energize or promote it. It's like blaming the caboose for the engine being late.

The devs here should have learned the lessons that SOE has yet to learn, that bad word of mouth travels faster than good. And it's widely known that on earlier incarnations of these forums, the devs and mods took a decidedly draconian way of governance when it came to the forums and IRC.

As has been said, a lot of subjects have been beaten to death. Right now, as far as discssion goes, we seem to be travelling over the same ground.