TC Bulletin and Policy Change 10/18/09 - Page 19

DraGa · #**271** 10-19-2009, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Kayliaah

Zomg really?

He should be put in jail tbh.

Kayliaah, you were a nice individual before you started supporting hackers

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Timbab · #**272** 10-19-2009, 02:30 PM

Omg, AGAIN...

SCRIPT KIDDIES, not hackers, ffs.

And to get one thing straight, Ashur hasn't been a script kiddie like you make it seem to be, if anyone has been a exploiter here, it was STORM (AXIS) since a LONG time.

If you want to flame, at least get the facts straight.

SomeoneImportant · #**273** 10-19-2009, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashur

as i said, im not gonna be ON the team. when i saw that people didnt like the idea i knew right then that i wasnt the right man for the job.

You should have known that right away, even before community response.

geforce · #**274** 10-19-2009, 02:31 PM

i love everyone

Kayliaah · #**275** 10-19-2009, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DraGa

Kayliaah, you were a nice individual before you started supporting hackers

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Thank you, post of the year, let me put it in my sig.

Luv ya.

duffmanrc · #**276** 10-19-2009, 02:32 PM

To this whole "its's a test center, they shouldn't be banned for hacking." If you make a hack and then report it WITHOUT EXPLOITING IT TO YOUR BENEFIT then it is fine. But if you abuse it for an extended period of time and only report it after you are caught, BANNED!

Uli · #**277** 10-19-2009, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Timbab

Omg, AGAIN...

SCRIPT KIDDIES, not hackers, ffs.

What category do i get stuck in timbad :P

DraGa · #**278** 10-19-2009, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by learningdisease

A.) The decision was not OVERTURNED, it was MODIFIED. ZERO TOLERANCE is still in effect for those who do not report their findings.

B.) The term "LESS" is subjective, as it was in essence, a continuation of a discussion that began with the original Policy, there was just input from MORE STAFF members than the when the original policy was announced, thus the policy was modified due to this new input and perspective.

C.) Would you rather he never reported the bugs/exploits at all? Old addage: "Keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer."

D.) I apologize to the community on behalf of STAFF for ANY miscommunication or unclear explanation of the modified policy. I hope you can agree to understand the actuality of the situation, which is that the exploit finding volunteers ARE NOT ON STAFF.

It was overturned in the sense that Ashur was unbanned because he's "useful" to their ends, and not because he broke the rules. That in itself is the very definition of overturned sir.

A "continued" discussion can ONLY be "continued" with ALL the staff present, at the time of the original decision, and with the additional staff for the second "continuation". The term LESS is highly objective and NOT subjective in this case.

I'll agree to a point for this entire situation, to the extent that I'm not privy to the ACTUAL discussions. Merely 2nd hand accounts from staff themselves.

I'll agree that without complete first hand knowledge I cannot provide a definitive answer towards the entire situation upon whom is to blame or whom to hate at this point.

I'll also agree that the staff as a whole, of whom I was "informed" yet again were opposed to the modification, are not responsible, and merely a select few whom are causing this community hemorrhaging.

Finally, I cannot accept an apology from someone who did nothing wrong. We don't want you to scapegoat yourself for errors on your higher ups part.

Malas · #**279** 10-19-2009, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolverine79

Ofc you do man. A hacker like yourself will always be prepare or fake something to to prove you didn't do it. You hacked, you exploited and griefed. This time you was caught red handed with videos, screenshots and at least 10 people. You can't back track it now. Even if you didn't have proof your staff buddies how made it clear before and will again to see you clear and free.

To think that there are so many dumb people in this world.

The video and screenshot didn't prove that he exploited. Maybe it looked like he griefed, it still doesn't prove anything. He may have been provoked.

And to Draga, please shut up before you make a fool of yourself

geforce · #**280** 10-19-2009, 02:35 PM

makes you want to listen to some bob marley right about now.

DraGa · #**281** 10-19-2009, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Malas

To think that there are so many dumb people in this world.

The video and screenshot didn't prove that he exploited. Maybe it looked like he griefed, it still doesn't prove anything. He may have been provoked.

And to Draga, please shut up before you make a fool of yourself

Good to see friends of Ashur, and STORM, are on this thread. Makes me have purpose

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Timbab · #**282** 10-19-2009, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Uli

What category do i get stuck in timbad :P

Obviously a white or grey hat.

Mahonra · #**283** 10-19-2009, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by geforce

word is his account was erased as in crushed and smeared like a barn roach and ashurs....... gave him a new geared and full templated jedi. thats just the word.

So Ashor deleting his Jedi was a meaningless attempt to trick the community into thinking he was doing the "right thing"?

Figured as much..

geforce · #**284** 10-19-2009, 02:40 PM

didnt one of the beattles say "All we need is Love." ?

DraGa · #**285** 10-19-2009, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Timbab

Obviously a white or grey hat.