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Old 10-19-2009, 01:08 PM
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oh yeah, in before lock
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Old 10-19-2009, 01:09 PM
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About time someone with some power here steps in .... again ... damage control is needed.

Delete thread ... post a new one without the mentioning of Ashur ... and keep it under control.
Lol, what's been said can not be unsaid.

Actions and statements that spread in this thread will stick with the community for a while, deleting this thread would be the WORST thing they could do.

Damage has been done, can't really stop that now.
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Old 10-19-2009, 01:11 PM
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Lol, what's been said can not be unsaid.

Actions and statements that spread in this thread will stick with the community for a while, deleting this thread would be the WORST thing they could do.

Damage has been done, can't really stop that now.
Meh .... 17 pages of flaming doesn't really help either.
No reason to continue this.

If you care about the EMU, you will agree.
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Old 10-19-2009, 01:13 PM
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Meh .... 17 pages of flaming doesn't really help either.
No reason to continue this.

If you care about the EMU, you will agree.
FLAMING? Are you serious?! Then, you pull a Hitler and say that if we don't agree with your poorly thought out shenanigans that we are evil towards the project? Holy crap batman .

This is NOT flaming, this is the community up in arms over this bull****.
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Old 10-19-2009, 01:14 PM
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If you care about the EMU, you will agree.
Thanks for the moral Aesop.
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Old 10-19-2009, 01:14 PM
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lol yall are just out for blood on a test server on live hows it going to be? hunting people for good ol jailhouse beatdowns?
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Old 10-19-2009, 01:15 PM
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Meh .... 17 pages of flaming doesn't really help either.
No reason to continue this.

If you care about the EMU, you will agree.
Well that's besides the point, it can turn into 50 or however many posts and it won't change the statements from multiple parties that were made.

Having this thread deleted could be looked at as a 'cover up', which is a tad to late, if that was wanted.

If anything, lock it, but then it would just leave a bunch of people 'quiet' while still being upset, leaving them to form their own views and fantasies on things that haven't been mentioned yet.

It's not like this is the first uprising, it's the third in fact. Just this time it's not by some 'raging' little group', it's by a majority of the community.
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Old 10-19-2009, 01:16 PM
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You guys are still arguing about this?

Look, Ashur said himself he WILL NOT be on the exploitation discovery team, which will be STAFF MONITORED, not a PART OF STAFF. They are essentially community members volunteering more of their time to one aspect they know about, which the Devs have requested help on.

Those of you upset about the "over-turning" of the new policy, please let me clarify the situation for you:

1. Exploitation and 3rd party "hacking" tools were becoming far too prevalent and was disrupting testing and playing. In response, the Zero-Tolerance policy was drafted and enacted swiftly.
2. Upon further deliberation with more STAFF members, the policy has been MODIFIED. It now allows for testing of exploits and 3rd Party vulnerabilities, as long as its reported, otherwise ZERO TOLERANCE for those activities.
3. STAFF is going to monitor and keep a close eye on anyone (and their friends) who has reported an exploit or 3rd party vulnerability, we aren't throwing this to the wolves.

Please understand that we are still in a testing phase, and that we need to develop stronger methods of exploit and 3rd party vulnerability protections, we are going to use every method at our disposal to do so.

If it REALLY wrankles you so much that there are people purposely finding exploits on our Test Center, please wait until SC comes out, and you wont have to worry about it, you'll be able to play with all of the protections and assurances against disruptive occurances that a commercial MMO provides.

To those of you upset that Ashur helped STAFF members out by explaining all of the issues his group of friends discovered, and that STAFF was appreciative for it (he could have simply told them off and spammed treacherous links, crash 3rd party gathering utilities, and act like an immature jerk), I'm sorry that you hold such low opinions of people and distrust the Team that has been working on this to such an extent.

PLEASE NOTE! THE SKY IS NOT FALLING, no matter how many people say it is. SWGEmu is resilient, its been proven over our 5+ year existence, we've had issues FAR more troubling than a few players abusing exploits.

I think a lot of you are blowing this out of proportion. Lets give this a few days, trust in the team that has put so much work into getting this game back. Enjoy yourselves, its not the end of the world, its a videogame.
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Old 10-19-2009, 01:16 PM
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lol yall are just out for blood on a test server on live hows it going to be? hunting people for good ol jailhouse beatdowns?
Says the storm member who claims Ashur and all the exploiters/speedhackers/griefers should have never been banned in the first place. Your opinion has not merit in this thread, or for that matter this forum, any longer.

Hacking, condoning it (as Kyle is doing), and pulling OBVIOUS favoritism completely undermines the project in it's entirety REGARDLESS if it's test center or not. Get your head out of your ass and think intelligently next time.
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Old 10-19-2009, 01:16 PM
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Ashor...

Have you (or are you) being given a new force sensitive character? I think the community needs to know. To my knowledge you haven't addressed this yet.
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Old 10-19-2009, 01:17 PM
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Meh .... 17 pages of flaming doesn't really help either.
No reason to continue this.

If you care about the EMU, you will agree.

7 pages for me.

I care about the Emu but people have to express themselves.


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Ashor...

Have you (or are you) being given a new force sensitive character? I think the community needs to know. To my knowledge you haven't addressed this yet.

Wow, you're right, it's so important...
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Old 10-19-2009, 01:17 PM
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Meh .... 17 pages of flaming doesn't really help either.
No reason to continue this.

If you care about the EMU, you will agree.
Things cannot be unsaid, yes, but I agree with Marlon here in that we don't need this thread full of so much flaming here.

It's probably better to stop now, now that most of us have gotten things out in the open.
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Old 10-19-2009, 01:18 PM
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You guys are still arguing about this?

Look, Ashur said himself he WILL NOT be on the exploitation discovery team, which will be STAFF MONITORED, not a PART OF STAFF. They are essentially community members volunteering more of their time to one aspect they know about, which the Devs have requested help on.

Those of you upset about the "over-turning" of the new policy, please let me clarify the situation for you:

1. Exploitation and 3rd party "hacking" tools were becoming far too prevalent and was disrupting testing and playing. In response, the Zero-Tolerance policy was drafted and enacted swiftly.
2. Upon further deliberation with more STAFF members, the policy has been MODIFIED. It now allows for testing of exploits and 3rd Party vulnerabilities, as long as its reported, otherwise ZERO TOLERANCE for those activities.
3. STAFF is going to monitor and keep a close eye on anyone (and their friends) who has reported an exploit or 3rd party vulnerability, we aren't throwing this to the wolves.

Please understand that we are still in a testing phase, and that we need to develop stronger methods of exploit and 3rd party vulnerability protections, we are going to use every method at our disposal to do so.

If it REALLY wrankles you so much that there are people purposely finding exploits on our Test Center, please wait until SC comes out, and you wont have to worry about it, you'll be able to play with all of the protections and assurances against disruptive occurances that a commercial MMO provides.

To those of you upset that Ashur helped STAFF members out by explaining all of the issues his group of friends discovered, and that STAFF was appreciative for it (he could have simply told them off and spammed treacherous links, crash 3rd party gathering utilities, and act like an immature jerk), I'm sorry that you hold such low opinions of people and distrust the Team that has been working on this to such an extent.

PLEASE NOTE! THE SKY IS NOT FALLING, no matter how many people say it is. SWGEmu is resilient, its been proven over our 5+ year existence, we've had issues FAR more troubling than a few players abusing exploits.

I think a lot of you are blowing this out of proportion. Lets give this a few days, trust in the team that has put so much work into getting this game back. Enjoy yourselves, its not the end of the world, its a videogame.
how can you continue to preach the party line of "Trust the team" when the team is just as divided apparently as the community.
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Old 10-19-2009, 01:18 PM
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timbab '09
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Old 10-19-2009, 01:19 PM
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Meh .... 17 pages of flaming doesn't really help either.
No reason to continue this.

If you care about the EMU, you will agree.
yes i agree its not good for the emu. and he kept exploiting with hacking the game the server. is all the testing community supposed to hack the game now for testing purposes? or are we supposed to ensure that swgemu gets a smooth and complete launch/ completion bug fee? and if you have room on this exploitation team why not have the best hackers of the game apply. so when launch does happen you already know who to ban.
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