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Lobreeze · #1 10-01-2009, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GestorterEngel

I just wish there were posts on what the fixes are when the servers do crash so we have some kind of hope on what's being fixed.

Are you saying you don't have hope anything is being fixed?

GestorterEngel · #2 10-01-2009, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Lobreeze

Are you saying you don't have hope anything is being fixed?

Don't put words in my mouth, Lobreeze. I never said that I didn't believe it wasn't being fixed. I said I hoped that they would let us know in a timely manner what things are being corrected when the server goes down, instead of just some random crash without knowing what kinks are being sorted out.

I'm not the only one who has been wondering (for instance, last nights crash that happened twice) what was being fixed and if it actually got fixed or needed more work done. We are even suppose to have weekly updates, which really hasn't been happening. Anytime someone asks about a bug, or a fix, or anything regarding issues, it never really gets answered and just looked over until it's silently solved.

Now, I'm not trying to complain, or *****. I am just stating, it would be nice, if we knew what was being worked on, rather than having crashes that are happening to silently fix certain problems. It would also help reduce the amount of multiple threads on certain bugs if people knew things were being fixed, and what they were. The forums would not be in such a clutter with the same posts, and there wouldn't be as many questions as to when something is going to be worked on.

As in my post here that was silently moved without anyone responding in regards to my questions.
http://www.swgemu.com/forums/showthr...759#post424759

Ratchet' Autobot · #3 10-01-2009, 02:59 PM

i had the same idea last year or so, but the point was made that it would be better if they just fixed the problem rather then fixing it then taking out thier time to explain what the problem was. that would cut down on actual production time. at least thats how it was explained to me.

Back on topic though, i belive the server is deadlocked right now.

Lobreeze · #4 10-01-2009, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GestorterEngel

Don't put words in my mouth, Lobreeze. I never said that I didn't believe it wasn't being fixed. I said I hoped that they would let us know in a timely manner what things are being corrected when the server goes down, instead of just some random crash without knowing what kinks are being sorted out.

I'm not the only one who has been wondering (for instance, last nights crash that happened twice) what was being fixed and if it actually got fixed or needed more work done. We are even suppose to have weekly updates, which really hasn't been happening. Anytime someone asks about a bug, or a fix, or anything regarding issues, it never really gets answered and just looked over until it's silently solved.

Now, I'm not trying to complain, or *****. I am just stating, it would be nice, if we knew what was being worked on, rather than having crashes that are happening to silently fix certain problems. It would also help reduce the amount of multiple threads on certain bugs if people knew things were being fixed, and what they were. The forums would not be in such a clutter with the same posts, and there wouldn't be as many questions as to when something is going to be worked on.

As in my post here that was silently moved without anyone responding in regards to my questions.
http://www.swgemu.com/forums/showthr...759#post424759

Well that thread you are linking, in all honesty, is a qq and ETA thread. Nothing more. What did you really hope to gain from that post? Did you honestly think it would be taken seriously?? Do you realize the irony of commenting on forum clutter, then linking one of those very threads?

You know policy on asking for ETA's on ANYTHING. Also, you clearly stated that the bug has been acknowledged and reported multiple times already. So what really is the point in the thread? Plus if it was moved that means it was posted in the wrong place as well...

I'm not putting words in anyones mouth. The way you said the hope thing conveyed that hope was lacking. You can say you aren't *****ing or complaining all you want, that doesn't mean that you aren't.

Personally I don't think its the devs job to report every time something happens/crashes. Nobody is getting paid for anything nor is anyone paying for anything. So stop being so demanding. NOBODY OWES ANYBODY ANYTHING other than our gratitude.

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i had the same idea last year or so, but the point was made that it would be better if they just fixed the problem rather then fixing it then taking out thier time to explain what the problem was. that would cut down on actual production time. at least thats how it was explained to me.

Bingo!

Sorry for the wall o' text but some people's misplaced sense of entitlement REALLY bothers me for some reason.

GestorterEngel · #5 10-01-2009, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ratchet' Autobot

i had the same idea last year or so, but the point was made that it would be better if they just fixed the problem rather then fixing it then taking out thier time to explain what the problem was. that would cut down on actual production time. at least thats how it was explained to me.

Back on topic though, i belive the server is deadlocked right now.

I call that a big excuse for not sharing with the community what should be shared so more problems and questions don't happen.

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Originally Posted by Lobreeze

Well that thread you are linking, in all honesty, is a qq and ETA thread. Nothing more.

You know policy on asking for ETA's on ANYTHING. Also, you clearly stated that the bug has been acknowledged and reported multiple times already. So what really is the point in the thread? Plus if it was moved that means it was posted in the wrong place as well...

I'm not putting words in anyones mouth. The way you said the hope thing conveyed that hope was lacking. You can say you aren't *****ing or complaining all you want, that doesn't mean that you aren't.

Personally I don't think its the devs job to report every time something happens/crashes. Nobody is getting paid for anything nor is anyone paying for anything. So stop being so demanding. NOBODY OWES ANYBODY ANYTHING other than our gratitude.

Bingo!

Sorry for the wall o' text but some people's misplaced sense of entitlement REALLY bothers me for some reason.

As I stated in the post itself, it wasn't a QQ or ETA thread, I was simply requesting that it be acknowledged and that it would be nice to have updates on what happens during server crashes as far as fixes. If you took it wrong, after I already stated otherwise, then I guess that's your problem.

I don't owe anyone gratitude, if you're developing a game, getting paid, or doing it for free, you have certain responsibilities. Everyone knows this. You can't over look them because you're not getting paid for it, that's absurd. I'm not *****ing, but you are making more out of this than I intended and taking it the wrong way.

Don't be so judgmental when it comes to text, it's not that easy to read attitude into it. We all have our own opinions and wishes and I'm doing nothing but expressing mine and making sure these problems that need fixed before anything else are being acknowledged and worked on.

Tarnrue · #6 10-01-2009, 03:24 PM

every beta i have played has always allowed you 5 to 10 mins notice of the server going down. and thats what this is, its a beta test for a game that is 6 years old.and i dont think this game should be treated any differently than any other. I think it would be nice to have a little bit of a notice even if they DONT tell us what they are taking it down for at least.
A: so we can find a safe place to log out
B: so we can disconnect and have less of a chance of being rolled back.
And from what i see on the forms they have made close to 2000 dollars last month so they are indeed getting paid. It may be going back into the project but they are still receiving money to help assist them.

A simple system message that says the server is shutting down in 5 mins would be nice.

thefixx2 · #7 10-01-2009, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Lobreeze

Are you saying you don't have hope anything is being fixed?

Lolbreeze, wtf are you even here for? this original post was just trollling garbage. You should have just put your foot in your ass instead of your mouth. Your post was just a kiss ass post anyway, trying to say we should have hope everytime the server goes down, admin brown nose.

Also, everytime the server crashes doesn't mean there is a fix being applied, why would you even think that? think about how many times a computer crashes or freezes and needs to be restarted, same thing happens on servers.

And, Lolbreeze is obviously a nublet to MMORPG's. Players have had a long history with the admin code word: 'fix' or 'fixes' they usually mean more bugs than fixes.

Lobreeze · #8 10-01-2009, 04:46 PM

Maybe you should take a look at the quality of posts I reply to.

GestorterEngel · #9 10-01-2009, 04:50 PM

We all know what posts you reply to, you reply to anyone with an opinion that you do not agree to. You reply to anyone that has a post that is easily mistaken for drama, so you can further make yourself look like an ass.

Face it, you're a common troll. You don't reply to anything helpful, and you're never nice in any of your replies.

Why don't you just try not replying at all, so people with actual ideas, opinions and ways to help out the community, aren't afraid to post and aren't afraid of getting someone like you in their thread.

Lobreeze · #10 10-01-2009, 04:56 PM

So because I don't agree with you I shouldn't post? I'm not going to blow sunshine up anyone's ass if I disagree. You yourself haven't provided anything helpful either, how ironic yet again.

I provide my points and you counter them poorly, saying that because you are a women you will bicker regardless. I'm not the one here poo poo'ing the work done by the devs/csr's spouting how I'm not even grateful. THOSE are the kind of posts I replay to. Not once do I ever say I think something is a bad idea WITHOUT saying why, unless its a LOLworthy comment to begin with. It's my right to have counter points regardless of what you think my attitude is.

Everything you originally said has been acknowledged and is being worked on. I point out why the other thread wasn't answered and all you do is side step around that fact and shift this on to me, without really addressing any point except for saying "no u" but in a few more words. Oh and by pointing out my one spelling mistake.... lulz good argument. You are right about one thing, I am a troll. I love to troll the real trollers.

GestorterEngel · #11 10-01-2009, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Lobreeze

So because I don't agree with you I shouldn't post? I'm not going to blow sunshine up anyone's ass if I disagree. You yourself haven't provided anything helpful either, ironic.

Are you always this naive? My whole post was meant to be helpful. I was reporting a bug, and expressing an opinion on how I think it would be easier for them to report what bugs are fixed or being fixed upon crashes. How is that not helpful? Or do you not understand the meaning of helpful, as you do not understand the meaning of troll?

If you posted in other places rather than only the ones you do not agree with, you wouldn't look so bad, but the plain fact that you only post when you see something you don't agree with makes you look like a major douche bag. I'm not asking you to blow smoke up anyone's ass. I'm asking you to lay off every single person who has an opinion simply because you can't fathom agreeing with them. The world doesn't revolve around you and what you think. Let people express themselves without rude asses like you barging in and starting drama to get threads locked.

PS: Edit your post to twist more words why don't you. I never said I was "pooing" on anyone. I was simply stating ways to make things better on them as *I* see fit. They don't have to listen, nor read, and neither do you. Trolling because you know I'm going to respond back to you doesn't make you any less of a troll. I enjoy this game, I'm happy someone is developing it, and I will give my opinion as I see fit, I just ask that YOU don't come in here and **** on them because you don't agree. Threads shouldn't have to be locked because someone expresses how they feel and then someone like you comes in to counter react an attack and get it closed. So why don't you just stop responding and egging things on.

Kayliaah · #12 10-01-2009, 05:12 PM

Nuh uh at this thread.

/tsktsk

Can't wait to "see" Ekaika's face when he wakes up/comes back/sees the thread.

Lobreeze · #13 10-01-2009, 05:13 PM

Reporting something that is already widely know and has like a zillion tickets already isn't helpful. I still stand by my original arguments points which were clear and not really standoff'ish. You are the one who chose to shift this to an attack on my personality without providing any real counter points just side stepping fact.

Last post I'm making in a while, the forums/irc have gone crazy down hill with the influx of all the new/returned people.

KroniK · #14 10-01-2009, 05:15 PM

Yeh to bad I can't close this section or would have been closed awhile ago. So if you don't have something on topic to say do not post in this thread again.

GestorterEngel · #15 10-01-2009, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by KroniK

Yeh to bad I can't close this section or would have been closed awhile ago. So if you don't have something on topic to say do not post in this thread again.

With all due respect, my original post was on topic regarding the crash from last night, but I'll refrain from commenting further to the drama trolls.

I don't want the thread locked, I only wished to explain my opinions and have them read upon the community here.