Multiple accounts are NOT permitted.

[jat5560]

Originally Posted by Ekaika

Again, we're paying attention. If someone feels the need to campaign multiple accounts to us and fabricate an elaborate plan hatched to manipulate us into allowing a second account, then so be it.

So what are you really saying...? It sounds like you are saying that those who lie and cheat will have an advantage over those who don't. If that is in fact the case, then why are you guys stressing yourselves out with the fact that you are policing this very thing even today on Nova? I think the only way to catch someone is if they are multiboxing (playing both accounts on the same computer at the same time) because any other way I would just say it was my wife playing and get the girl next door to send you an e-mail.

I don't want people to make multiple accounts because I want to know the true number of people interested in this project. See straight forward. I wish you guys would say something like that, because that makes sense.

Don't misunderstand my post as complaining, I'm just very concerned that the project is being stalled because you guys are wasting time on account polices. In fact, this post and the one by PL clearly shows that you guys are spending a lot of time on this.

[djolovicl]

Originally Posted by jat5560

So what are you really saying...? It sounds like you are saying that those who lie and cheat will have an advantage over those who don't. If that is in fact the case, then why are you guys stressing yourselves out with the fact that you are policing this very thing even today on Nova? I think the only way to catch someone is if they are multiboxing (playing both accounts on the same computer at the same time) because any other way I would just say it was my wife playing and get the girl next door to send you an e-mail.

I don't want people to make multiple accounts because I want to know the true number of people interested in this project. See straight forward. I wish you guys would say something like that, because that makes sense.

Don't misunderstand my post as complaining, I'm just very concerned that the project is being stalled because you guys are wasting time on account polices. In fact, this post and the one by PL clearly shows that you guys are spending a lot of time on this.

Will you just please let it go, PLEASE PLEASE...

[Biophilia]

legitimate multiple accounts should be labeled as such in-game so that other players can see. And the notation should link those that come from the same household/computer. This would discourage illegitimately acquired "legitimate" accounts. It's one thing to fool the admin with an email, it's another to fool friends and guildmates.

the location of the label doesn't have to be obvious, it could be hidden on the bio page or something, but players will see it and naturally ask who else they share "account-space" with.

it's a simulation game. A player driven account monitoring system would fit nicely :P It wont be 100% effective but I think once set up would provide much more security for little management effort.

[Zadokk]

Originally Posted by Biophilia

legitimate multiple accounts should be labeled as such in-game so that other players can see. And the notation should link those that come from the same household/computer. This would discourage illegitimately acquired "legitimate" accounts. It's one thing to fool the admin with an email, it's another to fool friends and guildmates.

the location of the label doesn't have to be obvious, it could be hidden on the bio page or something, but players will see it and naturally ask who else they share "account-space" with.

it's a simulation game. A player driven account monitoring system would fit nicely :P It wont be 100% effective but I think once set up would provide much more security for little management effort.

I like this idea. Part of the 'authenticity' process should also list the character's forum username so that players can know exactly who they are dealing with.

Originally Posted by djolovicl

Will you just please let it go, PLEASE PLEASE...

I smell a conspiracy...

...

Or a trap.

[Travis8908]

Originally Posted by zadokk

i smell a conspiracy...

...

Or a trap.

"it's a trap!!"

oh and thanks for answering my question Ekaika.

[djolovicl]

Look at this genius:



He made one got banned, and then quickly made another one

[jat5560]

Originally Posted by djolovicl

Look at this genius:



He made one got banned, and then quickly made another one

What are you trying to show here?

[djolovicl]

Originally Posted by jat5560

What are you trying to show here?

Unlimited stupidity.

And you?

[jat5560]

Originally Posted by djolovicl

Unlimited stupidity.

And you?

I simply asked what it was that screenshot was trying to show. If you want to be an ******* thats your problem not mine.

[djolovicl]

Originally Posted by jat5560

I simply asked what it was that screenshot was trying to show. If you want to be an ******* thats your problem not mine.

Now, that's not nice, is it?

Just because you ask stupid questions, and people disagree with you it does not give you the right to be rude.
You asked your silly questions, you got your answers. I'm sorry you didn't like them.

Then i asked you to stop:

Originally Posted by djolovicl

Will you just please let it go, PLEASE PLEASE...

That's what turned your attention to me?

(This is the real cause of your frustration, is it not?)

P.S. I'm sorry you you didn't win Nedak's JOTY, but there is always next time

ON TOPIC:

I was going to suggest maybe a part of application form i which will enable them to explain their need for multiple accounts, that would be directly mailed to Phantom, but then i realized that would probably create more problems. But this will work, i hope



EDIT: I'm not going to waist any more time or space in this thread with another post.

Did Jat just get a second account?

Xaat=jat5560

Or has a member of a Jat household get one?

Its all so familiar...

[Jer]

Not even sure why I read all that. Towards the end it was just going in circles. I'm guessing this thread'll be closed soon, cause it no longer seems to be serving any purpose. The fact is, the use of multiple accounts is a problem that can lead to unfair advantages, unnecessary grief, and most likely large amounts of confusion. The staff is taking what it feels is the best course of action to prevent this problem. As Ekaika said, if you have some fantastic idea to better remedy this, by all means tell us. But otherwise, I'd hardly call most of this criticism constructive.

[Xaat]

I don't even type like that guy and you could just look at the IP addresses... you guys are awfully touchy. Sheesh, sorry for trying to contribute.

Edit: PS (I do this edit: ps thing alot, bad habit of mine to re-read my posts and come up with more thoughts after the fact) djolovicl did you read the bulk of my post where I supported the single account policy? I wasn't trying to attack you... I'm just honest. I think as a representative of the community you shouldn't be so dismissive to people who offer criticism. One hundred people who blindly agree will not get you as much value as one person with the guts to disagree, even if you disagree with the disagreement. Isn't that the point of having forums, to discuss things and explore every angle?

The way I see it Jat was saying you could save a lot of time by dropping the account policy since people will try to get around it, and people who do cheat the system will have an advantage over those who don't. I think he's right, but I still think the one account policy is better than letting everyone have as many accounts as they want, so I said so and why.

Anyway it seems from the reaction I'm getting that nobody wants my opinions in this thread, so this will be my last post. I'll just lurk and keep my big mouth shut while I wait for the devs to get things done, I trust them to do the right thing and I really appreciate their hard work. SWG when it was new was the best MMO experience I've ever had and just thinking about a chance to re-live those days has me all tingly. Good luck and thank you to everyone involved.

[MikeCool]

Originally Posted by Xaat

I don't even type like that guy and you could just look at the IP addresses... you guys are awfully touchy. Sheesh, sorry for trying to contribute.

This.

[Nedak]

God, you people are annoying.

Does it really matter? Let them do what they want, ffs.

[Ekaika]

I agree. Why do you care. To correct some points.. it is no longer a lot of work to police, as we've automated most of it. In addition, your point of toons on TC is incorrect, as our CSR's check that. Phantom and myself are simply addressing the problem at this level in an attempt to prevent it from making it to TC. Should that happen, we have many people fully capable of researching and taking action.

While I appreciate your concern for my workload, I assure you we've got it under control. I do not see how this ties into new people being attacked.