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Old 04-28-2010, 03:23 AM
erminator erminator is offline
 
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Omg whats going to happen to my resources, what about my 5M max PH that i was going to dupe. **** i was gonna sell my holo for 3085203Mill

Oh wait the 33% minority won, great now everyone can get back to ****ing the economy, one of the most vital and unique parts in the game

Thanks SOE
There was no minority or majority, the poll was duped and there fore invalid, now stop flaming the devs and live with the fact you have a free game on a TEST server and enjoy until OR
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Old 04-28-2010, 03:31 AM
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Anyone care to justify charging 3+ mil for a sub 190 damage VK? Funny how inflated things have gotten.
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Old 04-28-2010, 03:46 AM
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Anyone care to justify charging 3+ mil for a sub 190 damage VK? Funny how inflated things have gotten.
So go buy a 180dmg VK off the bazaar for 20k like most of us have been doing for a while now. Who freakin cares, its a test center.
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Old 04-28-2010, 05:44 AM
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So go buy a 180dmg VK off the bazaar for 20k like most of us have been doing for a while now. Who freakin cares, its a test center.
I got this price directly off the bazaar.

Whole point of that post is that cheaters now rule TC...inflating the market to absurb levels and this, by looks of it, is perfectly acceptable. A wipe with nerfed loot tables, buffing crafted gear, and disabling certain features used for some of the duping might have been a good thing to test is all I am thinking.
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Old 04-28-2010, 03:32 AM
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There was no minority or majority, the poll was duped and there fore invalid, now stop flaming the devs and live with the fact you have a free game on a TEST server and enjoy until OR
Wrong.
The VAST majority voted for a wipe.
One or more moderators on this board altered the vote count and then deleted the poll thread.

(I'll post these links again since I know it'll be asked)
http://img191.imageshack.us/i/pollafterclose.png/
http://img689.imageshack.us/i/pollam...foreclose.png/

Take a close look at those numbers.
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Old 04-28-2010, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by kookaburra View Post
Wrong.
The VAST majority voted for a wipe.
One or more moderators on this board altered the vote count and then deleted the poll thread.

(I'll post these links again since I know it'll be asked)
http://img191.imageshack.us/i/pollafterclose.png/
http://img689.imageshack.us/i/pollam...foreclose.png/

Take a close look at those numbers.
All that proves is that you know how to take a screenshot.

Do you have access to the vote records to know how each account voted? Do you have access to the account logs to ensure all the accounts that voted are unique users and not dupe accounts?

If not, there's no way we can trust ANY of the votes on face value.

You're treating the before pic as solid numbers, which they may not actually be. The vote count may have been altered long before the vote ended, by users let alone any possible fixing by the mods.

With the lack of proof to the contrary, the entire vote is suspect, not just the last minute.
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Old 04-28-2010, 01:34 PM
kookaburra kookaburra is offline
 
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All that proves is that you know how to take a screenshot.

Do you have access to the vote records to know how each account voted? Do you have access to the account logs to ensure all the accounts that voted are unique users and not dupe accounts?

If not, there's no way we can trust ANY of the votes on face value.

You're treating the before pic as solid numbers, which they may not actually be. The vote count may have been altered long before the vote ended, by users let alone any possible fixing by the mods.

With the lack of proof to the contrary, the entire vote is suspect, not just the last minute.
You're not looking close enough. Unless you have an explanation about how people cast NEGATIVE votes.
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Old 04-28-2010, 03:30 AM
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Its sad really. It shows the decline of America and just how far the MTV generation has fallen. Everyone here is being provided with a FREE game that is being privatly funded, supported and developed. Moreover, it is a game that we all lost years ago and for some time, never thought we would get back. Now that we have something, few can simply say thank you, instead most of you are all a ungratefull bastards.

I will not be counted in that majority. Devs, you have my deepest appreciation for your work on this project and you shall have my support on whatever measures must be taken for it to succeed.
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Old 04-28-2010, 03:42 AM
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Now that we have something, few can simply say thank you, instead most of you are all a ungratefull bastards.
What are you babbling on about fool? this has nothing to do with what's been done so far. If you weren't here when the polls were up can you please think before you speak. You're so quick to label anyone who's upset as a "swgemu hater", without even knowing the circumstances. The reason people are angered is because they're part of the community just like you and any of the other fools galloping around on your high horse.

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Old 04-28-2010, 03:49 AM
Shadow2k Shadow2k is offline
 
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What are you babbling on about fool? this has nothing to do with what's been done so far. If you weren't here when the polls were up can you please think before you speak. You're so quick to label anyone who's upset as a "swgemu hater", without even knowing the circumstances. The reason people are angered is because they're part of the community just like you and any of the other fools galloping around on your high horse.
Right, the community. Unfortunately it was the community that screwed this one up. Jacking with the votes, flaming the hell out of each other. Acting like spoiled brats, from the time the first poll went up...right up until now.

The community, as you so thoughtfully put it, should be worried about the future of the game as a whole. Not little bits and pieces of a test center that are insignificant in the long run.
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Old 04-28-2010, 03:51 AM
zaphresz zaphresz is offline
 
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Originally Posted by Letesh View Post
Here Zap, have a refund for everything this game has cost you. Now, STOP WHINING.
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Originally Posted by erminator View Post
There was no minority or majority, the poll was duped and there fore invalid, now stop flaming the devs and live with the fact you have a free game on a TEST server and enjoy until OR
You guys are missing the whole point here... please stop trying to remind everyone that this a free TC, we all know that. The FACT remains that THEY asked us what our opinion was, then just ignored.
If your going to do what ever pleases you then don't ask 2000 other people.

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Its sad really. It shows the decline of America and just how far the MTV generation has fallen. Everyone here is being provided with a FREE game that is being privatly funded, supported and developed. Moreover, it is a game that we all lost years ago and for some time, never thought we would get back. Now that we have something, few can simply say thank you, instead most of you are all a ungratefull bastards.

I will not be counted in that majority. Devs, you have my deepest appreciation for your work on this project and you shall have my support on whatever measures must be taken for it to succeed.
Don't get me wrong, I also have the deepest appreciation, just like everyone else, for what the devs are doing in general. If they had decided on a wipe w/o asking then no one would have any say in the matter. This became OUR decision the second the devs posted the poll.

Oh and for everyone who's blaming people created accounts to increase votes, how do you know how they voted? They could be evenly distributed for all we know, so there's no point to be made there...
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Old 04-28-2010, 04:02 AM
Shadow2k Shadow2k is offline
 
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You guys are missing the whole point here... The FACT remains that THEY asked us what our opinion was, then just ignored.
I think you should go back and read the first post in this thread. They didn't ignore your opinion. They had valid reasons for what they did, whether you agree with their decision or not.

If they wanted to ignore you, they never would have posted the polls. Why create the drama? Makes no sense.
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Old 04-28-2010, 04:37 AM
zaphresz zaphresz is offline
 
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I think you should go back and read the first post in this thread. They didn't ignore your opinion. They had valid reasons for what they did, whether you agree with their decision or not.

If they wanted to ignore you, they never would have posted the polls. Why create the drama? Makes no sense.
You've got it backwards mate. If the devs had decided on a wipe without asking us then that would have been out of necessity for the development of the server or OR or whatever. But this wipe was for us, so they asked us. If you remove a president from his/ her office its out of necessity, if you hold an election it becomes a choice for the people. (sorry for the odd analogy)

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What we now realize is it may cause more damage then good in the end. .
This is the only valid reason they gave, if its a reason at all.
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Old 04-28-2010, 03:45 AM
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This just makes me sad. Thank you Devs for attempting to treat the community as responsible people. Unfortunately when push comes to shove this showed that we are not. Thank you for your patience towards us.
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Old 04-28-2010, 03:48 AM
Letesh Letesh is offline
 
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I was here for the polls. I voted in both of them. However, Whether there was a poll or not, or whether or not the actions of the devs were based on the results of the poll, is irrelevant. Recognizing the fact that this is a free game no one here has a right to complain to any of the Emu staff about the outcome of either of these polls or anything else regarding the development and functionality of the game. All of us are here by the good graces of the people working hard to make this endeavor happen. By all means offer advice, but dont whine untill your blue in the face because you dont get your way.
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