Bi-Weekly Update 01 December 2009

[Manly_Breakfast_Sandwhich]

Originally Posted by ad27499

Not everyone has 5 alts, some of us only have 2. And when 1 of them is stuck rubberbanding there is not much choice... The cloners should be offlimits for pvp anyway, at least for people that have just cloned.

Anyway. Keep up the good work team!

Sorry but even that can not be used as an excuse on most cases when 1 player switches to another character OR even simply goes back to the character select menu it fixes the rubber band the same way dying or shuttling does because it reloads the world.

So ya honestly there should be no repercussion for clone camping.

[Labyrinth]

Originally Posted by Manly_Breakfast_Sandwhich

Sorry but even that can not be used as an excuse on most cases when 1 player switches to another character OR even simply goes back to the character select menu it fixes the rubber band the same way dying or shuttling does because it reloads the world.

So ya honestly there should be no repercussion for clone camping.

You don't even have an argument, you're just claiming that because it's possible to "escape" clone camping, therefore, it is justified. I still haven't heard why it's justified in any circumstance.

[Manly_Breakfast_Sandwhich]

Originally Posted by Labyrinth

You don't even have an argument, you're just claiming that because it's possible to "escape" clone camping, therefore, it is justified. I still haven't heard why it's justified in any circumstance.

I still haven't heard a viable reason as to fully abolish it either and realistically if you are being camped in the cloner you honestly brought it upon yourself. Most people do not camp unless given a reason.

I've offered numerous ways to escape from clone camping already so offer me 1 good reason why not to camp? You can easily escape it.

But I bet you would be in the group of people who will sit there and continue to be camped just to shout profanity at your campers in spatial chat thinking you are winning the battle of wits...

You have an option to walk away and do something else... do it, don't sit there and cry or talk about the other persons mama thinkin you are actually intellectually superior when you are flat on your back with max battle fatigue and only 1 HAM...

[Labyrinth]

Good, cause I'm done arguing, seeing as this is just:

Originally Posted by Manly_Breakfast_Sandwhich

I still haven't heard a viable reason as to fully abolish it either and realistically if you are being camped in the cloner you honestly brought it upon yourself. Most people do not camp unless given a reason.

I've offered numerous ways to escape from clone camping already so offer me 1 good reason why not to camp? You can easily escape it.

But I bet you would be in the group of people who will sit there and continue to be camped just to shout profanity at your campers in spatial chat thinking you are winning the battle of wits...

You have an option to walk away and do something else... do it, don't sit there and cry or talk about the other persons mama thinkin you are actually intellectually superior when you are flat on your back with max battle fatigue and only 1 HAM...

Burden of Proof, Ad Hominem, and Strawman.

[emperoranubis]

Err...my question is how exactly is clone camping happening? The only way I can think of it happening is with people who are overt, though I thought that after death you ended up reverting to covert (while I believe this should in fact be on leave, I can't 100% be sure that this was what it was pre-CU). If people aren't reverting from overt then I think that qualifies as a bug. Unless this has to do with people going back to the cloner and spamming people to enter a duel with them, in which case you could just ignore them (hopefully anyways).

[Serpentkaa]

Originally Posted by emperoranubis

Err...my question is how exactly is clone camping happening? The only way I can think of it happening is with people who are overt, though I thought that after death you ended up reverting to covert (while I believe this should in fact be on leave, I can't 100% be sure that this was what it was pre-CU). If people aren't reverting from overt then I think that qualifies as a bug. Unless this has to do with people going back to the cloner and spamming people to enter a duel with them, in which case you could just ignore them (hopefully anyways).

Some players are stuck overt based on the faction bug and continue to be overt even after death. Some jedi continue to have TEF when cloned because they do not have time to unequip their sabers. These are bugs but ones we do not have time to fix in the code at the moment. It is turning into a form of griefing that will be fixed once OR rolls out. Hence, for now there is a temporary injunction of no camping the cloners.